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Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by Ekaros »

truth_ wrote: post #19
Inhibit wrote: post #3

Linkedin is a marketing platform where you are the product. Use it as a tool if you need to but try not to forget that. If you feel something's horrible there it's likely by design and within that context. (edit: you're to you are)

> where you are the product Isn't this true for all major social media platforms?

Yes and no. On other media platforms your behaviour and activities(both posts and add clicks) are the product. On other hand on LinkedIn you yourself is the product. And not in the influencer way.

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by varjag »

yoz-y wrote: post #32
varjag wrote: post #15

A Medium blog chastising LinkedIn as hollow. Now I've seen it all.

Hm. Medium is just that, a medium. FWIW, it’s quite common to see a Medium blog reach the homepage of HN. I’ve never seen a LinkedIn post here though.

The Medium is the message, and the message is "it's time we make this official".

There's plenty going for LinkedIn here, given how unhip it is. Including some reasonably popular threads.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27042151

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=linkedin.com

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by throwaway894345 »

takkiinvincible wrote: post #49
throwaway894345 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can indeed curate, but I definitely get the vibe that cringe is the default mode on LinkedIn (which is still strictly better than Twitter’s default mode, toxicity).

What would a better social media platform look like in your opinion?

In two words: “thoughtful” and “good-faith”. Content should be interesting and thoughtful rather than optimizing for clicks (obviously this isn’t compatible with an ad-based model). Dialog should be civil, charitable, kind, etc and strong norms for objectivity and neutrality. Low tolerance for overt ideological advocacy, authoritarian rhetoric, flame baiting, etc.

That’s “what it should look like”. To get there, I expect it’s “establish the right norms from the start and incentivize the right content and behaviors along the way”. To monetize, I don’t know and I don’t especially care.

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by takkiinvincible »

andrew_ wrote: post #7

The same exists on nearly every social media site, sadly. Natural progression I would assume. On Twitter, in dev circles, we have "Junior Dev Porn" where the same poll/questions are asked, the same anecdotes are recycled, and the same code snippets posted, all in the name of empowering junior developers. But at a high altitude it's glaringly obvious the majority are for engagement and follower gain. Especially so whe…

I agree - it seems that all social media platforms suffer from this. Original/useful content seems to lose out in the battle for user engagement. I wonder if you could create a new type of social media platform that overcomes this problem?

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by intricatedetail »

lordnacho wrote: post #38

It's the faux-thentic trope pieces on LinkedIn that annoy me. "I was working so hard I forgot to be me" or "after years of constant success my daughter showed me what success really means". Apparently it means getting likes from strangers. And then there's the business tall tales: "I hired a guy with no qualifications other than a big heart and now he's running a multinational". "I made 10k job applications and lande…

It's a social ponzi scheme...

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by beebeepka »

lordnacho wrote: post #38

It's the faux-thentic trope pieces on LinkedIn that annoy me. "I was working so hard I forgot to be me" or "after years of constant success my daughter showed me what success really means". Apparently it means getting likes from strangers. And then there's the business tall tales: "I hired a guy with no qualifications other than a big heart and now he's running a multinational". "I made 10k job applications and lande…

> it's not polite to call out BS

But it's perfectly fine to spew BS if you do it politely. The "politeness" weapon has been used on me many times

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by jokethrowaway »

truth_ wrote: post #22

I find LinkedIn really cringy. And I haven't seen ONE post there that actually added value to my life. It is also toxic as hell. But I know people who got employment offers from LinkedIn. So it adds value in that sense. I just mute and block those influencers. And check LinkedIn maybe twice a week. One of the things I cannot find any excuse for is how fake people are. They are behaving in a fake manner even when they…

It's useful to know what the ranges are in your location.

I never got a job through it though, real life networking and personal connections generally yield higher salary opportunities than recruiter-sourced ones (if you're planning to stay outside of FAANG)

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by truth_ »

Ekaros wrote: post #51
truth_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> where you are the product Isn't this true for all major social media platforms?

Yes and no. On other media platforms your behaviour and activities(both posts and add clicks) are the product. On other hand on LinkedIn you yourself is the product. And not in the influencer way.

Your point is fair.

Your communication metadata, your choices, you age, gender, location, and many other things are indeed products of companies like Facebook. But in a way, you are, too. Because the mere presence of yours draws some other people to that platform.

And celebrities who are famous outside of social media, are definitely more products themselves rather than the data associated with them.

On the other hand, on dating apps like Tinder, you yourself are the product in addition to any other information they might monetize in numerous ways.

Re: Shameless Work Influencers Are the Bane of LinkedIn

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Post by jacksonkmarley »

takkiinvincible wrote: post #50
jacksonkmarley wrote: post #30

> a vast circle jerk in the cloud Well, that has the ring of truth, when applied to the newsfeed. And the final conclusion that you should just get on linkedin when job searching and then get off again is fine. I find it incredibly useful for job searching, to the point that I don't even bother with other sites. However, the job search experience is badly spoiled by secondary recruitment postings. These are especiall…

"a vast circle jerk in the cloud" is got to be one of the best descriptions of the LinkedIn feed I've heard! What do you think the ideal social media feed would look like?

For me seeing pictures of what friends far away are up to, a la facebook, is actually pretty nice. And twitter is best when a quick thought is linked to a more in-depth article or post. Plus news links to some objective source. And no promoted content. I'm not holding my breath.
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