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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by tartoran »

mrweasel wrote: post #65
hamoid wrote: post #40

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To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism. They rise my blood pressure, increase stress levels and make me hate. Try living somewhere where every 20 minutes such bikes make the windows of your flat shake and you can't hear your TV or your partner talking until the bike is gone. Why do I have to suffer this every day of my life? I can't wait until the ICE is part of our primitive past.

Some motorcycle have an insane high volume bass sound that make me physically sick. If the rider thinks it helps them get noticed in traffic, then fine, but then they should also have on a hi-vis jackets and helmet, which most don’t.

It gets me utterly sick as well and covering my ears does’t help much. I don’t think the only intention is be heard but to be noticed by absolutely everyone, awake or asleep. It’s a show off

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by mschuster91 »

henearkr wrote: post #66
mod wrote: post #49

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It's not strange, it's exceedingly common in the motorcycle community. I don't have loud pipes but I think it could help in blind spots, that's about it. I just don't ride in blind spots instead.

That should not be necessary. Bicycles don't need it, do they? Moreover, with modern blind spot cameras, automatic collision avoidance systems (which will probably, cheaply, equip every electric car), I hope these concerns will completely fade away.

> Bicycles don't need it, do they?

The traffic fatalities of bicyclists in cities would like a word with you...

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by tartoran »

EE84M3i wrote: post #60
Negitivefrags wrote: post #9

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> “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” People are very good at justifying thier anti-social behaviour to themselves.

That was my interpretation at first too, but their anecdote about being heard from inside a car leads me to believe they're talking about cars seeing/hearing them on the road for safety reasons.

Is that the reason they rev up their engines to the breaking point while standing in traffic?

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by henearkr »

mschuster91 wrote: post #72
henearkr wrote: post #66

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That should not be necessary. Bicycles don't need it, do they? Moreover, with modern blind spot cameras, automatic collision avoidance systems (which will probably, cheaply, equip every electric car), I hope these concerns will completely fade away.

> Bicycles don't need it, do they? The traffic fatalities of bicyclists in cities would like a word with you...

I believe the solution is not loud noises.

There are plenty of other options.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by b4ke »

henearkr wrote: post #66
mod wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not strange, it's exceedingly common in the motorcycle community. I don't have loud pipes but I think it could help in blind spots, that's about it. I just don't ride in blind spots instead.

That should not be necessary. Bicycles don't need it, do they? Moreover, with modern blind spot cameras, automatic collision avoidance systems (which will probably, cheaply, equip every electric car), I hope these concerns will completely fade away.

Ok, well I have been hit by vehicles on various bicycles five times. Always follow the laws, ride the lanes, lights, blah blah blah. On my liter bike with an after-market exhaust, people mostly get out of my way.... so I mounted an air horn on my bike handlebars, people now see me magically.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by martyvis »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #67
CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

I obviously don't talk to enough bikers. This is the first timeI have even heard the idea, I'm 57 and certainly have known a lot of books riders, that people like loud bikes because they think it makes them safer.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by marmaduke »

CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

> Exhausts sound great

For kids walking to school, people trying to nap, etc, loud exhaust is terrible on the ears and stressful in general. Electric bikes aren’t silent, but the whining noise is much less stressful than combustion engine noise.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by henearkr »

b4ke wrote: post #76
henearkr wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That should not be necessary. Bicycles don't need it, do they? Moreover, with modern blind spot cameras, automatic collision avoidance systems (which will probably, cheaply, equip every electric car), I hope these concerns will completely fade away.

Ok, well I have been hit by vehicles on various bicycles five times. Always follow the laws, ride the lanes, lights, blah blah blah. On my liter bike with an after-market exhaust, people mostly get out of my way.... so I mounted an air horn on my bike handlebars, people now see me magically.

At least that's better than loud exhaust pipes. Loud bikes activate the fight-or-flight system in a way that klaxons do not.

Maybe that's because the loud bikes have frequencies and intonation modulation close to those of a menacing voice? (or growl)

At least in Japan, some bikers (bōsōzoku) do on purpose some kind of sounds similar to somebody arguing angrily (and snarkingly!).

But I don't want to accept neither as a solution air horns and vuvuzuelas competing for my attention and for the privilege of prematurely obliterating my cochlear hair cells.

There are other ways, let's do this. We are smarter than that, aren't we.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by marmaduke »

Aachen wrote: post #22
greyhound wrote: post #10

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Also, the "utterly intoxicating" sound is often forced onto others without their consent. Like playing your music through a loudspeaker in a public place. So yeah, go electric!

> Like playing your music through a loudspeaker in a public place. You're in luck, that's exactly what electric cars will do instead of being quiet!

It’s a scifi low drone noise though, just enough to notice, it’s not annoying at all.
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