11 GB of old conversations?
The Bible contains about 3.5 million characters and an average Bible weighs about 500 grams. 11 GB of conversations would then be about 1.5 tons of Bibles.
It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
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Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
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Yes, with a catch: it requires an always on Mac (which can be in the cloud) or a jailbroken iOS device. We plan to make it work without the catch. I've worked with 10+ messaging platforms so far and Apple's protocol is the most obfuscated and complicated to reverse engineer. Apple has invested millions of dollars to make the iMessage protocol super hard to reverse engineer. It's how they sell tons of iPhones after al…
Looks like a super cool project. I'm always happy to see new client-side software for communication protocols written that aims to improve upon built-in! And iMessages in particular could certainly use it. With the demise of iTunes, it now feels like iMessages is probably one of the most crufty-but-heavily-utilized user facing pieces of software Apple puts out. Maybe they have some long term plans to refactor it ala…
iMessage is backwards compatible with older devices. This means Apple can’t stop supporting old versions of the protocol, even as they are “cracked”.
Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
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I actually did try emailing Tim Cook a few months ago, but I got bounce backs. I tried tim@apple.com and timcook@apple.com but the mailer daemons said the addresses weren't registered. It sounds like a crazy thing to do, but I remembered how Steve Jobs would reply to users' emails and read an article where Tim said he set aside time to read users' emails.[0] [0] - https://www.inc.com/business-insider/tim-cook-wakes-u…
Craig's email is [redacted]. The guy is very chill. It's better you email a software guy about software. Also, be sure to file a bug report / enhancement at https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
Use https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/ instead, it has a mildly better chance of being read.
Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
#19411 GB of old conversations? The Bible contains about 3.5 million characters and an average Bible weighs about 500 grams. 11 GB of conversations would then be about 1.5 tons of Bibles.
The Bible doesn’t contain pictures and video.
Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
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Never attribute to malice…
...that's what malicious people say! ;)
Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
#196Apple's chat.db has an esoteric schema owing to the fact they never designed it from the ground up and instead kept adding new columns and tables with each macOS release. This makes their queries super complicated with multiple joins. Once you have the schema figured out, it's dead easy to build a third-party client that works better than the official one. Even search works great with a simple LIKE query but Apple re…
> "Apple's chat.db has an esoteric schema"
This is basically one taken out of microsoft's .doc format playbook.
At first I thought Apple was slow and just didn't have time to get to some sort of export for iMessage chats. Mail had imap, calendar had caldav, address book had carddav. The original mac stuff did other standards like AIM and jabber.
But over time I began to suspect, then later those internal emails exposed in the lawsuits made it clear - apple was holding everyone's messages hostage.
What's annoying is that I couldn't save my messages, I could only upgrade to a bigger iphone.
What's downright evil is all the people - I know several - who have lost messages + embedded photos/videos from loved ones who have died because there was no export.
Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
#197My sister was having a problem where she was taking all the iCloud storage for our family because she keeps sending videos to people but couldn't figure out a way to efficiently delete them. I had to write up a Python script ( https://gist.github.com/saagarjha/615dee3c04e226b44828e910a5... ) to scrape the iMessage database for large attachments, and then print out the text to messages around it so that you could sear…
Did Settings > General > iPhone Storage > Review Large Attachments not work?
I’ll have to check that actually. Maybe I can give her a high-capacity iOS device and let her sign into that, and then delete everything from there.
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A piece of feedback: it would be nice to know what the price is on your site. You say "We make money by charging you a monthly subscription," but there's no pricing.
Indeed, we’re in private beta atm experimenting with pricing and product. Don’t want to mislead or turn away people until we finalize it.
OK, so document that?
Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage
#199I think people should get in the habit of deleting all their convos that are more than a month old. Most convos are 99.99% worthless, and it's very freeing to be rid of them.
One of my friends had her H1B cancelled and was given a 10 year ban from entering the US because of her text messages. When she crossed the border back into the US, the border guards requested her phone, and searched it and found messages to her ex-bf about marrying him for a green card. She was joking but it didn't matter and she had to fly back to her country of origin that she didn't live in since she was a kid. Since then, even though I don't have anything to worry about, as a habit I delete all my apps except iMessage and delete all my conversations there.