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Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by tmp231 »

duckfang wrote: post #93
mgh2 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get you, HN has a general anti-religious view on things. However, as with any information, bias hurts any analysis (in any form data is presented). A quote is just that, a quote. No matter your beliefs, information is neutral and should be inquired for curiosity purposes in HN, not personal opinion.

No. That's called bible-thumping. In our world, it's trivially easy to get hold of any major religion's works, and only moderately difficult to get hold of smaller religion's works, primarily due to translation issues. And in light of context, you weren't comparing the writings or showing different religions' thoughts on human longevity - you were implicitly stating that your choice of religion was the right one, by…

Secularism is its own religion and gets quoted often around here. Guess you’ll just have to learn to be tolerant.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by Larrikin »

stfp wrote: post #25
melling wrote: post #17

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120 years would be a great start. Imagine the world 120 years ago in 1900. The airplane hadn’t been invented. Cars were still a novelty. Special Relativity hadn’t been discovered.

Median scenario: so you grow up in that world, then go through 2 world wars, a few pandemics, the loss or death of most of your friends and family, gradually disconnect from the rest of society, just so you can see what amazing thing humanity will invent next (spoiler alert: it's more phones and huge cars and maybe a dozen folks living in tunnels on mars), while the forests are ripped out and the oceans boil and natu…

This comment assumes that improvements in longevity will come by themselves with no quality of life improvements.

There were plenty of people in their 60s and 70s riddled with cancer and decrepit old bodies from back breaking labor before our lifetimes that probably were waiting for death too.

Now that's the age of retirement and a time to explore hobbies and the world for large portions of the population.

Personally the one thing I fear is that it will be discovered that it's possible to pause/slow aging but not effectively reverse it. If you start taking the aging pills in your 20s maybe you look and feel 50 when you're 100 but if you start the pills when you're fifty maybe you're feeling like a current 100 year old by your 150th birthday.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by rantwasp »

narush wrote: post #29

Taking this with a grain of salt, of course, but cool! Worth pointing out the concept of "healthspan," which is pretty much like it sounds like: how long you stay healthy to do the things you want to do. Long lifespan seems worthwhile if it's accompanied by a long healthspan as well.

this person gets it.

who wants to live to 150 is you’re in constant pain, take 150 medications/day and you cannot move?

now, let’s say that at 90s you could do what a 40yo can do. GAME CHANGING!

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by melling »

WJW wrote: post #78
melling wrote: post #14

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Sure, it’s just a number. The point is that if we made the effort, there’s likely easy things we can do to extend life beyond 100. Studying Blue Zones, for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Zone We really haven’t made an effort to study aging. Why do some people live well into their 90’s and appear to be in good health? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Van_Dyke

> We really haven’t made an effort to study aging. We haven't? Just 2 seconds of googling "study aging" brings up results from places like Harvard, the NIH, RAND and hundreds of other universities where people study aging all day everyday.

How much money are we spending?

I’m sure it’s getting some research but compared to other medical research I don’t think it amounts to much

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by astine »

mgh2 wrote: post #11

Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3

So says the Bible, right before talking about Noah who goes on to live many centuries, apparently.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by Someone »

chpatrick wrote: post #32
TaupeRanger wrote: post #10

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Is having? Where? I see nothing that leads to me believe the evidence-free hype around longevity. I think it's early to say it's happening now . Eventually? Sure...maybe.

Being able to produce any protein in the body with mRNA seems like a pretty big leap.

So do understanding the role of DNA and understanding it’s chemistry: necessary, but not sufficient.

I think mRNA production will help in quite a few rare genetic diseases, but also that we’re far away from being able to safely make the myriads of subtle changes needed to make otherwise healthy people live longer.

I compare it to heart surgery. It is quite a miracle that we can do it, but the risks are so high that we only do it when people’s hearts have lost significant portion of their pumping capacity. You don’t see cross-country skiers who are just not good enough get heart surgery to make it to the olympics, for example.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by rantwasp »

dwaltrip wrote: post #65
whiddershins wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is dismissive of gained wisdom over time, and probably the most unapologetic generalization about a group I’ve read recently. My guess is having lots of older voters would make it so people stop falling for the same scams over and over, and are less prone to hysteria. If that were the case, governance should improve dramatically.

Have you heard the phrase “science advances one death at a time”? Older people — not all of them, there are many exceptions, but as a group — are more rigid in their thinking and less open to new ideas. Some of this is due to acquired wisdom, but it is also due to decreased ability to imagine the world any other way.

here is an idea: age weighted voting. starting at voting age, give every X years interval Y% votes.

if there is a lot of old people their vote matters less. if there is a whole lot more younger people their vote matters less.

i’m sure this would work great. also sure i’m the first person to have thought about this. /s

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by tmp231 »

“No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; for the child shall die one hundred years old, but the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed” (Isaiah 65:20 NKJV).

It’s happening just as predicted.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Post by lurquer »

mgh2 wrote: post #11

Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3

That was years until the Flood.

Had nothing to do with lifespans.

(Biblical characters — contemporary with when the passage was written — were living past 120.)

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