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Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3

Sorry, but I dont base my worldview on what a bunch of bronze-age people said. It's a good mythological story, though. We have science. -------------------------------- Edit: I really don't understand the downvoters. This specific passage was written 6000 years ago, give or take. It's from a religious holybook that has no bearing on technology, medicine, or science. Germ theory was nonexistent, most forms of medicine…

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Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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post #11

Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3

Sorry, but I dont base my worldview on what a bunch of bronze-age people said. It's a good mythological story, though. We have science. -------------------------------- Edit: I really don't understand the downvoters. This specific passage was written 6000 years ago, give or take. It's from a religious holybook that has no bearing on technology, medicine, or science. Germ theory was nonexistent, most forms of medicine…

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Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

120 years would be a great start. Imagine the world 120 years ago in 1900. The airplane hadn’t been invented. Cars were still a novelty. Special Relativity hadn’t been discovered.

I seriously feel pissed about all the wonders of the future I'll never get to witness. All the things the human race is going to do. All the places it will go. Of course, that's assuming our species doesn't suffer a biotech apocalypse before then.

I'll take being the last generation to experience childhood without the internet and mobile phones, and it's not even close.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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post #11

Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3

Sorry, but I dont base my worldview on what a bunch of bronze-age people said. It's a good mythological story, though. We have science. -------------------------------- Edit: I really don't understand the downvoters. This specific passage was written 6000 years ago, give or take. It's from a religious holybook that has no bearing on technology, medicine, or science. Germ theory was nonexistent, most forms of medicine…

I get you, HN has a general anti-religious view on things.

However, as with any information, bias hurts any analysis (in any form data is presented). A quote is just that, a quote.

No matter your beliefs, information is neutral and should be inquired for curiosity purposes in HN, not personal opinion.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seriously feel pissed about all the wonders of the future I'll never get to witness. All the things the human race is going to do. All the places it will go. Of course, that's assuming our species doesn't suffer a biotech apocalypse before then.

If you reverse that and think about all the wonders and scientific progress that’s been made up till now, it’s easy to say that’s it never been a better time to be alive.

It's pretty interesting how people are always upset about not living forever or getting to witness the future while nobody ever seems to be bothered that they were born too late to see incredible sights like dinosaurs or getting to see the Incan empire at its peak or something.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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This is dismissive of gained wisdom over time, and probably the most unapologetic generalization about a group I’ve read recently. My guess is having lots of older voters would make it so people stop falling for the same scams over and over, and are less prone to hysteria. If that were the case, governance should improve dramatically.

Have you heard the phrase “science advances one death at a time”? Older people — not all of them, there are many exceptions, but as a group — are more rigid in their thinking and less open to new ideas. Some of this is due to acquired wisdom, but it is also due to decreased ability to imagine the world any other way.

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Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3

What's with all the bible quotes around here lately?

Good question.

My guess is, since your text is pretty gray, that the downvoter brigade also hit you too.

I didnt go to news.somereligion.com . And being biblethumped is not indicative of a good time.

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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Has anyone actually read the paper?

I have some pretty serious qualms with the topology traversal routes over the DOSI vs age manifold — they seem unfounded. This isn’t inherently problematic, but that seems like a core assumption - that the steepness and thus likelihood of falling off the DOSI associated cliff increases with age. The idea being once you fall off the cliff you die.

I don’t think it is a bad hypothesis, it just isn’t a result?

They renamed DOSI from “Age independent mortality” and changed the traversal examples since their 2018 paper [0] - honestly I don’t know how this paper has gotten so much press this week. It is only interesting for the title (Might’ve answered my own question there), but once you dig into it isn’t all that rigorous.

[0] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2018.0048...

Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests

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post #62

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> My guess is having lots of older voters would make it so people stop falling for the same scams over and over, and are less prone to hysteria. A major part of Fox News’ business model is built around creating FUD amongst senior citizens. They seem to be very successful at it.

I don't think age has anything to do with it, and Fox News has plenty of younger viewers as well. I think education, ideology, and sensationalism have more (everything?) to do with it.

According to POS: https://pos.org/whos-watching-a-look-at-the-demographics-of-...

The only big difference between Fox and other networks is that they have way less college educated viewers as a percentage of total viewers.

Not sure how good of a source that is, though. There's several (not great) sources online I can see that say the average FOX News viewer is >65. I also see that the average CNN & MSNBC viewer is >59.

But according to that POS survey, only 20% of viewers are >65 - which must mean a significant portion of their viewers are REALLY old like 80+ (or the surveys are just bad).

538 gives POS an A- for polls: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/public... - which is pretty good. So who knows?

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