the offline thing kind of reminds me of MSDN back in those days
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#192Sorry, it's just really off-putting to me that software developers who get paid more than average laborers complain so much about paid offerings that cost them less than a single Starbucks drink. We don't know what the pricing is yet, but there are already people discussing what is too much.
I know the demographics here aren't strictly American, but the currency conversion is hardly that impactful across major developed nations.
There are so many tools in our industry that help you do your job on a daily basis that we all pay nothing for.
But you know, have fun thinking you can do anything more than being an employee for the rest of your life if you decide you want to create a product and realize you're a part of an industry who's too cheap to pay $0.99 for an app.
Re: MDN Plus
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m fully alright with $5 - I saw $10 and immediately thought $5 would be reasonable. If any MDN folks are reading - $10 seems a bit too steep. Especially since this is in US $, it would seemingly put this service out of reach for a lot of people. Perhaps that’s not a concern to the foundation, but works against the principles of the open web in my mind.
We are indeed reading this feedback. And I get your point - thanks!
Five bucks would be a no brainer amount for me. Ten would make me pause and consider if I really needed it.
Re: MDN Plus
#194These don’t seem like features that should be behind a paywall.
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#195The waitlist deeplink doesn't seem to work. Has the link been removed?
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#196It would be nice if Mozilla used the LWN.net model for their premium content. That is, paying subscribers get the latest and most up-to-date content that took effort to write. A couple of weeks later that content is then made accessible to everyone else.
Following that model, students, hobbyists, people who are trying to break into the industry etc who may not be able to afford a subscription can still benefit from content. It also helps draw new customers. I would not have paid for my LWN subscription if I didn't already hold the content they published for free in high regard.
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#197I find hiding all of these articles behind a walled garden a little distasteful. I remember the times when I couldn't have afforded access to such information. Back then, this kind of stuff would have been published in a magazine, and that magazine would have been on the rack of my local bookstore, where I could have flipped through it to decide if it was worth my money.
> I find hiding all of these articles behind a walled garden a little distasteful.
Did you click the link? The second blob of text, above the fold and not easy to miss:
> Nothing is changing with the existing MDN Web Docs content — this content will continue to be free and available to everyone. We want to provide extra value through premium content and features to help make MDN self-sustaining, on a completely opt-in basis. Again, nothing is changing with the existing MDN Web Docs!
The experience you describe at the bookstore mirrors the proposed experience for MDN Plus rather well, actually.
Re: MDN Plus
#198Sorry, it's just really off-putting to me that software developers who get paid more than average laborers complain so much about paid offerings that cost them less than a single Starbucks drink. We don't know what the pricing is yet, but there are already people discussing what is too much. I know the demographics here aren't strictly American, but the currency conversion is hardly that impactful across major develo…
Huh, I will likely never read any of it, but it’s a simple way to give back a little bit to Mozilla.
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#199First and foremost: your employer should be expensing this, not you, individual developer.
In the advent you are paying yourself, imagine how much money you can make by spending less time trying to find answers to complex problems, particularly sifting through old StackOverflow answers that aren't always relevant anymore (or jQuery centric!)
As with all things, lets wait and see of course ! However, I think thoughtful monetization here can be reall good for the web, in the long run.
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#200The $10/m right now seems on the high side. Even the copy suggests you're better off not getting this, waiting at least a year for the content to be posted "every month," then subbing for a single month to read it all. Maybe the Wikipedia/donation model would have been a better play for MDN then this, particularly as freemium was originally about micro-transactions, not $2 more than the cost of Netflix's Basic tier.…
Where does it say $10/mo? I see $5/mo or $50/yr.
I can't find any price or sign up for a waitlist or anything.