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Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by passivate »

antirez wrote: post #114

It requires a very high amount of naiveness to think this could solve the issue. Only thing that will help is education of children, so that they understand their place in the world, to accept themselves, that the aesthetic standards provided in social networks are very high (but yet, as a central European my sensibility is a bit different than the one in other places -- I would suggest that this must be a stimulus t…

You must have missed it, the article itself says its not going to solve the problem.

>In its testing and research, Instagram said that removing likes had little impact on behaviour or wellbeing - after concerns that using the platform could be linked to insecurity and poor mental health.

>Despite this, Mr Mosseri said Instagram - which is owned by Facebook - introduced the feature to make “people feel good about the time they spend” on the platform. “I do think there’s more to do in this space,” he added. “The more we can give people the ability to shape Instagram and Facebook into what's good for them, the better.”

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by bschne »

spoonjim wrote: post #159

This is akin to the ability to "de-badge" a car, offered by German manufacturers, where the manufacturer logo is visible but the specific model is not. I.e. a Mercedes SL could be a $80,000 V6 or a $160,000 twin-turbo V12 and unless someone was clued into the differences (like the exhaust pipes) they wouldn't know. I've noticed anecdotally that in the US, most of the de-badged cars are the low end models -- people do…

Funny, I always thought people did that for aesthetic reasons because they liked the cleaner look.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by 908B64B197 »

willcipriano wrote: post #148
vikiomega9 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if that education should also explicitly include how likes, ads and attention are correlated. Making them understand their place in the world is good but SM is a different take on that age-old problem.

Have the kids make a post to see who can get the most likes over a week, the teacher does a lame one as well ("read books this summer!"). Nobody likes the teachers post, until the last day when teacher buys 1000 likes for the post, blowing everyone away for $5. Now the kids know its all made up and the points don't matter.

> Now the kids know its all made up and the points don't matter.

Careful, they might start questioning whether standardized testing can be gamed as well.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by 908B64B197 »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #57
headmelted wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, why are we being forced to subsidize EastEnders? Whats the public benefit from that rubbish? CBeebies, CBBC - cool. Public benefit makes sense. BBC Science and Documentaries - Public benefit. Fully justifiable. EastEnders - Pay money to make other people less intelligent or we’ll fine you.

You're not forced to subsidize it. If you don't watch live TV or iPlayer you don't have to pay. They'll send you threatening letters every 2 years or so saying they're going to come round your house but you just have to go on the website again and tell them you still don't watch live TV.

Why not simply charge for the BBC?

If you want to unlock it pay X$ per month. See how many viewers are willing to pay for it. That's what Disney and Marvel did, grossing billions of dollar in the process.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by 908B64B197 »

antirez wrote: post #118
KittenInABox wrote: post #116

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I doubt that the only thing that will help is education. Education cannot win over something where other, more educated people are putting full-time careers in psychological hijacking of children. A 12 year old doesn't stand a chance no matter how much they accept themselves. This stuff needs to be regulated like cigarettes.

I don't agree because the contact with real teenagers at school and other places where children meet was as brutal as it is today even in the past. Now there are new elements, that is, the fact you have to confront yourself with a lager audience of people and you can see unreal standards. But even at school with 400 children there will be the extremely pretty, the extremely good at sports, and so forth. And what is l…

> Now there are new elements, that is, the fact you have to confront yourself with a lager audience of people and you can see unreal standards.

You nailed it here. Social media heavily rewards extreme outliers.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by antirez »

passivate wrote: post #161
antirez wrote: post #114

It requires a very high amount of naiveness to think this could solve the issue. Only thing that will help is education of children, so that they understand their place in the world, to accept themselves, that the aesthetic standards provided in social networks are very high (but yet, as a central European my sensibility is a bit different than the one in other places -- I would suggest that this must be a stimulus t…

You must have missed it, the article itself says its not going to solve the problem. >In its testing and research, Instagram said that removing likes had little impact on behaviour or wellbeing - after concerns that using the platform could be linked to insecurity and poor mental health. >Despite this, Mr Mosseri said Instagram - which is owned by Facebook - introduced the feature to make “people feel good about the…

My comment was referring to the feature itself, I see that the article kinda try to put the things in perspective, but not as strongly and sharply I think should be done.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by passivate »

antirez wrote: post #166
passivate wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must have missed it, the article itself says its not going to solve the problem. >In its testing and research, Instagram said that removing likes had little impact on behaviour or wellbeing - after concerns that using the platform could be linked to insecurity and poor mental health. >Despite this, Mr Mosseri said Instagram - which is owned by Facebook - introduced the feature to make “people feel good about the…

My comment was referring to the feature itself, I see that the article kinda try to put the things in perspective, but not as strongly and sharply I think should be done.

Ah okay, your comment sounded like someone claimed it would fix the problem - but the article didn't say that - so I don't quite know who you were referring to!! In any case, no biggie. :)

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Post by alexanderchr »

spoonjim wrote: post #159

This is akin to the ability to "de-badge" a car, offered by German manufacturers, where the manufacturer logo is visible but the specific model is not. I.e. a Mercedes SL could be a $80,000 V6 or a $160,000 twin-turbo V12 and unless someone was clued into the differences (like the exhaust pipes) they wouldn't know. I've noticed anecdotally that in the US, most of the de-badged cars are the low end models -- people do…

> Wonder if there's a deeper learning to be found there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by fy20 »

spoonjim wrote: post #159

This is akin to the ability to "de-badge" a car, offered by German manufacturers, where the manufacturer logo is visible but the specific model is not. I.e. a Mercedes SL could be a $80,000 V6 or a $160,000 twin-turbo V12 and unless someone was clued into the differences (like the exhaust pipes) they wouldn't know. I've noticed anecdotally that in the US, most of the de-badged cars are the low end models -- people do…

The whole indirect signalling of cars is very interesting.

In my country (North/Eastern Europe) you pay more (€500-€2000) for a license plate that has certain combinations of numbers such as 123 or 747. I've noticed that pretty much every Porsche has a plate like that. It's kind of silly, because people who have no clue that exists won't care at all. You can also go full on custom plates, the funniest I saw recently was someone who had H0DL... on a Toyota RAV4 :D I guess the plate cost 20% the price of the car.

I used to live in a Middle Eastern country where the plates were simply Latin numbers, combinations didn't matter, but if you wanted a shorter plate you had to pay more. If you had a 1 or 2 character plate (which is at least $500k) supposedly girls would just leave their phone numbers on your car, regardless of what car you had.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Post by pc86 »

bschne wrote: post #162
spoonjim wrote: post #159

This is akin to the ability to "de-badge" a car, offered by German manufacturers, where the manufacturer logo is visible but the specific model is not. I.e. a Mercedes SL could be a $80,000 V6 or a $160,000 twin-turbo V12 and unless someone was clued into the differences (like the exhaust pipes) they wouldn't know. I've noticed anecdotally that in the US, most of the de-badged cars are the low end models -- people do…

Funny, I always thought people did that for aesthetic reasons because they liked the cleaner look.

That's certainly part of it, and if I was going to buy a car at the SL level I'd probably debadge regardless of the trim level. But I'm sure there are people on one end of the spectrum who don't want to advertise their $150-200k car, and people on the other end who want to make others think it's a $150-200k car.
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