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US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by Unseelie »

blhack wrote: post #7
imrehg wrote: post #6

Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. So instead of technology and business innovation, let's do legal innovation and sue them people regardless of where they are.

>Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. I want to agree with you, because I wish that was the case, but it isn't. The 15-25 set just doesn't care. If they can get a movie for free on bittorrent, or pay $20/mo to stream as many as they want, they'll go for bittorrent the majority of the time.

I'm going to assume you're not in the 15-25 set, by even claiming there's wide commonality between people 15 and 25 years old. 18-25, perhaps.

The first major difference is that people approaching 25 have a great deal more money than people at 15.

All that aside, I for one notice a huge predilection in my peers (of the 19-22 set)to buy into services such as hulu and netxflix, and to look there first for their media. Why? Because the services are instant, cheap, and of much better than most pirated media.

FYI, netflix charges $8 a month...significantly less than the 20 you site.

Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by tomp »

Barnett, assistant deputy director of ICE: "The idea is to try to prosecute."

If I remember correctly, in the few cases that the domains were confiscated, there was no prosecution, no courts involved. The owners of the domains had practically no means to question or challenge the seizure. At least that's what the media reported at the time.

Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by trafficlight »

blhack wrote: post #7
imrehg wrote: post #6

Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. So instead of technology and business innovation, let's do legal innovation and sue them people regardless of where they are.

>Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. I want to agree with you, because I wish that was the case, but it isn't. The 15-25 set just doesn't care. If they can get a movie for free on bittorrent, or pay $20/mo to stream as many as they want, they'll go for bittorrent the majority of the time.

I think it comes down to whatever is easiest. If $20/month gets me the shows I want when I want, I'll do that. If it doesn't? Bittorrent it is.

Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by novumordo »

Unseelie wrote: post #11
blhack wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. I want to agree with you, because I wish that was the case, but it isn't. The 15-25 set just doesn't care. If they can get a movie for free on bittorrent, or pay $20/mo to stream as many as they want, they'll go for bittorrent the majority of the time.

I'm going to assume you're not in the 15-25 set, by even claiming there's wide commonality between people 15 and 25 years old. 18-25, perhaps. The first major difference is that people approaching 25 have a great deal more money than people at 15. All that aside, I for one notice a huge predilection in my peers (of the 19-22 set)to buy into services such as hulu and netxflix, and to look there first for their media.…

Services such as Netflix and Hulu are not available in most countries, and if they are, selection is terrible.

Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by Unseelie »

imrehg wrote: post #4

Oh dear, why did I by a .net for my personal domain.... ><

Are there addresses that no country can't claim as in their jurisdiction?

Seems to me that you have to be in jurisdiction somewhere. Not to argue that American jurisdiction is necessarily the best..

Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by esrauch »

blhack wrote: post #7
imrehg wrote: post #6

Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. So instead of technology and business innovation, let's do legal innovation and sue them people regardless of where they are.

>Why is online piracy such a big business (and hence a problem to the rights holders)? Because there are no comparable legal alternatives. I want to agree with you, because I wish that was the case, but it isn't. The 15-25 set just doesn't care. If they can get a movie for free on bittorrent, or pay $20/mo to stream as many as they want, they'll go for bittorrent the majority of the time.

Way more 15-25 year olds pay for content than you would think, just less so in the 15-25 techie crowd.

Re: US claims all .com and .net websites are in its jurisdiction

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Post by jbronn »

Verisign is operator of the authoritative domain name registry for the .com and .net top-level domains. Verisign is headquartered in Virginia, and as such, the "property" of the domain is located in the United States and is subject to the jurisdiction of our courts.

This isn't new, and it's why anti-cybersquatting legislation (15 U.S.C. §1125) can be enforced.

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