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I wouldn't be including Microsoft in that list. Microsoft's own documentation is excellent.
Microsoft shut off their documentation in favor of MDN.
Well, they also put a quarter mil into MDN.
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Re: MDN Plus
#42>Nothing is changing with the existing MDN Web Docs content — this content will continue to be free and available to everyone. We want to provide extra value through premium content and features to help make MDN self-sustaining, on a completely opt-in basis. Again, nothing is changing with the existing MDN Web Docs! Sounds good.
I agree but I wish they wouldn't have attached the mdn name to it in the first place
Re: MDN Plus
#43The $10/m right now seems on the high side. Even the copy suggests you're better off not getting this, waiting at least a year for the content to be posted "every month," then subbing for a single month to read it all. Maybe the Wikipedia/donation model would have been a better play for MDN then this, particularly as freemium was originally about micro-transactions, not $2 more than the cost of Netflix's Basic tier.…
It seems to be an A/B test, it's $5/m on my side. Which seems fair to me, although I agree about the product angle; I don't care at all about extra content or features, I'd rather just pay to keep MDN going and have everything available to everyone.
You're right, looks like an A/B test. You can see it here:
https://developer.mozilla.org/api/v1/plus/landing-page/varia...
If you nuke the sessionid cookie and reload you'll either get "$5 a month or $50 a year" (variant 1) or "$10 a month or $100 a year" (variant 2).
Re: MDN Plus
#44If EU really cared about privacy, EU would fully fund Mozilla.
If Mozilla was a european non-profit I would agree it would be great to have EU funding. But a foreign organization where the management are extracting millions and millions of dollars for questionable performance at best while firing vast amounts of employees? No way.
Re: MDN Plus
#45The $10/m right now seems on the high side. Even the copy suggests you're better off not getting this, waiting at least a year for the content to be posted "every month," then subbing for a single month to read it all. Maybe the Wikipedia/donation model would have been a better play for MDN then this, particularly as freemium was originally about micro-transactions, not $2 more than the cost of Netflix's Basic tier.…
Where does it say $10/mo? I see $5/mo or $50/yr.
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Re: MDN Plus
#46so the best way to come up with more money is to squeeze it out of devs ?
Re: MDN Plus
#47The $10/m right now seems on the high side. Even the copy suggests you're better off not getting this, waiting at least a year for the content to be posted "every month," then subbing for a single month to read it all. Maybe the Wikipedia/donation model would have been a better play for MDN then this, particularly as freemium was originally about micro-transactions, not $2 more than the cost of Netflix's Basic tier.…
Delete the cookies for developer.mozilla.org (*) and refresh the page, with a bit of luck, you'll be in the $5 per month/$50 per year group ;)
(*) Keep in mind that this might have unwanted side effects.
Re: MDN Plus
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here are some news articles that might make you rethink that: - https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html - https://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-mozillas-layoffs-an... Help out, sure. To fully fund them would be taking it too far.
Fully funding means they can put better governance in and throw the captain overboard if need be.
Could would should. It'd be great, but there is zero indication that it would actually happen.
Re: MDN Plus
#49At first glance, this feels a little distasteful. I've always thought of the MDN docs like Wikipedia; a non-profit public resource. Attempting to monetize it feels... wrong somehow. So long as the docs themselves remain under CC-BY-SA though guess it's not really a problem. The premium features they currently offer seem reasonable, and if things ever get too out of hand the community could always just move to another…
I don't really understand how offering better content against money is worse than asking for money regularly like Wikipedia does (especially when they seem to just consume more and more money).
This feels more like a service rather than it being a subscription-based donation. It's not called Wikipedia Plus.
Re: MDN Plus
#50MDN should be a separate company. Personally, I'm no longer interested in supporting Mozilla in any capacity. Their management behaves in a way that's consistent with the idea that it's barely more than controlled opposition to Google's Chrome team.