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Re: MDN Plus

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Post by moron4hire »

rchowe wrote: post #17
terminalserver wrote: post #6

With all the uncountable billions of dollars in the banks of Apple, Microsoft, Google etc, none of them can manage to come up with documentation to compete with MDN which has to go freemium to be viable. Presumably that’s because they can’t link your identity to it or something, making it nit worthwhile doing. Apple: “we’re a hardware company, it’s not our job to document the web” Microsoft: “Internet Explorer failed…

Having the browser vendors write documentation might be an issue because they will all write it for their own browser.

I don't think that's the negative you think it is. It would provide a lot more clarity on how the browsers differ.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by Hamuko »

terminalserver wrote: post #6

With all the uncountable billions of dollars in the banks of Apple, Microsoft, Google etc, none of them can manage to come up with documentation to compete with MDN which has to go freemium to be viable. Presumably that’s because they can’t link your identity to it or something, making it nit worthwhile doing. Apple: “we’re a hardware company, it’s not our job to document the web” Microsoft: “Internet Explorer failed…

>Apple: “we’re a hardware company, it’s not our job to document the web”

Or, as everyone who's ever had to look at Apple's developer documentation knows, to document their own operating system APIs.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by johnnycerberus »

PaulHoule wrote: post #8

If EU really cared about privacy, EU would fully fund Mozilla.

EU should sponsor directly the contributors of open-source software without any middleman. A contributor can switch companies like socks, giving money to corporations is pointless. Also, contributors have to apply to be granted funds. The EU can't really babysit.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by 1_player »

PaulHoule wrote: post #8

If EU really cared about privacy, EU would fully fund Mozilla.

Sure, but it's not EU's _job_ to fully fund Mozilla. And since when the European Union has to give money to an American corporation? Last I checked the USA is the biggest economy in the world, and incidentally where Mozilla, inc. is legally based.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by Zababa »

$5 a month when I'm using my regular web browser (chrome), $10 a month when I'm using private navigation. $10 a month on Firefox too. Maybe because I'm in Europe and it's adjusted to salaries/cost of living?

Re: MDN Plus

#26

Post by Ajedi32 »

At first glance, this feels a little distasteful. I've always thought of the MDN docs like Wikipedia; a non-profit public resource. Attempting to monetize it feels... wrong somehow.

So long as the docs themselves remain under CC-BY-SA though guess it's not really a problem. The premium features they currently offer seem reasonable, and if things ever get too out of hand the community could always just move to another site. It also doesn't sound like something I'd pay for though, so not sure how successful it'll be.

On the positive side, more funding to maintain MDN could turn out to be a good thing in the long term. I guess we'll have to see.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by krono »

PaulHoule wrote: post #8

If EU really cared about privacy, EU would fully fund Mozilla.

Here are some news articles that might make you rethink that:

- https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

- https://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-mozillas-layoffs-an...

Help out, sure. To fully fund them would be taking it too far.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by jmchuster »

Someone1234 wrote: post #16

The $10/m right now seems on the high side. Even the copy suggests you're better off not getting this, waiting at least a year for the content to be posted "every month," then subbing for a single month to read it all. Maybe the Wikipedia/donation model would have been a better play for MDN then this, particularly as freemium was originally about micro-transactions, not $2 more than the cost of Netflix's Basic tier.…

This really looks more like something to get companies to just shell out for. "Oh, you all already use MDN every day for your documentation? Sure, we'll pay for MDN Plus and get a nice bulk discount."
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