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Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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In my view this is Instagram providing platitudes in an attempt get ahead of a growing consensus that social media is bad for people and society overall The harm inflicted by social media is infinitely more complex and sinister than a simple count of likes on posts.

At the very least it'd help with the US's vanity complex. My whole life as a kid prior to social media was just "live." Post social media, now I borderline need to make a post here and there to prove I'm not a schizoid.

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I'll give it another 5 years before social media is viewed on the same level as cigarettes. The best thing I've ever done for my mental health was deleting social media. I realize I'm not significant enough to argue of other people about my own life. As long as you're not harming anyone else you're free to do whatever you want. Social media says no you have to shape your entire life around what people you'll never me…

And now you hang out at HN which is totally different from social media. Where people never seek approval from the masses. Chastising other people as a concept does not exist on HN. HN, the not-social media, does not even have a concept of likes.

The way scoring works on HN is importantly different though. Highly downvoted comments get greyed, but when a comment is highly upvoted, only the author sees. I can't see what your highest-scoring comments are.

There's also a publicly visible total karma associated with each account, but it's not displayed prominently.

I don't think submission scoring is particularly problematic.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Have you tried just not using it?? Or developing self control?? Surely it's like saying bottles need to be harder to get into because I like drinking alcohol too much... Or cars need to accelerate slower because I love speeding and can't resist permanently holding down the accelerator pedal, even at risk to my own health and wellbeing

Ease of access to the thing you're addicted to is a big factor for relapse probability. That's one reason why it's so hard for people with food addiction to lose weight. Developing self control is a lot harder than you make it seem.

But developing self control isn't impossible, else EVERYBODY would be "addicted" to all manner of things - alcohol, smoking, food, sex, shopping, hoarding - all of them.

As these things aren't experienced by everybody, there must be a possibility that self control can be cultivated. It also is supported by laws that punish you for lack of self-control: murder in the case of rage, stealing in the case of greed etc.

In all cases I am sure the addiction-help courses encourage you to not use/take the thing you are addicted to. They are pushing towards self control, else it'd be a pointless thing to undertake.. In this case it's totally possible to just not use the app - uninstall it, or don't launch it, or don't pick up your phone.

Buy a cheap smart wristband and only enable important notifications to cut out the noise?

I wonder if lack of notification lights is anything to do with it? About 20 years ago the Nokias etc. had notification lights and even the early Android phones had them, which meant you knew to look at it as it gently flashed. They seem to have fallen out of popularity and so people now look at their phone all of the time just in case there is something they have missed, and then develop a habit of looking, which only gets worse and worse. You end up training yourself to do the habit, just like biting your nails, or a nervous tick where you scratch your head at certain times.

If the phone was off all of the time until something actually important happened (ie a notification light), or you developed the skill to only look at it at set times throughout the day perhaps that'd help.

If not, then surely ALL apps need a "take a break" feature built in. I mean, I could be spending way too much time inside Notepad... or YouTube... or VLC...

Is Notepad, YouTube and VLC to blame if I spend all the time looking at them??

Or is it my fault?

Perhaps I should take responsibility for constantly using Notepad, YouTube and VLC instead of blaming the app.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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And now you hang out at HN which is totally different from social media. Where people never seek approval from the masses. Chastising other people as a concept does not exist on HN. HN, the not-social media, does not even have a concept of likes.

But you're not chastising me, or my physical appearance. Having people call you ugly all day is probably one of the worst parts of Instagram. You're merely chastising a few of my opinions. There's so much detachment from the rest of me. In the early days of Facebook I actually screwed up a relationship as I was worried my first girlfriend would post the wrong thing on my wall, and oh no all my friends would see. Hack…

> Hacker News isn't really a social media site since there's no concept of followers or friends here.

I'm not sure that matters all that much, it's just one way of doing things.

Would HackerNews be a different beast if it gave you the option of viewing the most recent 40 comments from your 10 favourite commenters? I don't think so. Someone could even build this as a third-party UI if they wanted to.

> If in any case you decide to go through my post history to make fun of me, I can just create a new handle.

HackerNews is well moderated. I imagine the mods would view that kind of thing as harassment and put a stop to it, especially if you contacted them about it.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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In my view this is Instagram providing platitudes in an attempt get ahead of a growing consensus that social media is bad for people and society overall The harm inflicted by social media is infinitely more complex and sinister than a simple count of likes on posts.

At the very least it'd help with the US's vanity complex. My whole life as a kid prior to social media was just "live." Post social media, now I borderline need to make a post here and there to prove I'm not a schizoid.

Screw that - don't let the people on the Internet live rent free in your head. You don't have to post to prove anything.

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I must've been in the testing batch because in 2019 my Instagram simply stopped telling me how many people had liked my post and I could not for the life of me figure out how to fix that. I just checked and for the first time since I can remember I can see how many people like my posts again. I feel like a quick notification informing me that I was part of a study would have been appropriate.

IIRC, it was a permanent change for everyone. This most recent change re-adds the ability to see counts.

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What I really need is a way to lock myself out of the account, especially Twitter, without suspending it. Like, disable the login for a day, but I am still on the platform. The electric fences I put up myself never work.

Have you tried just not using it?? Or developing self control?? Surely it's like saying bottles need to be harder to get into because I like drinking alcohol too much... Or cars need to accelerate slower because I love speeding and can't resist permanently holding down the accelerator pedal, even at risk to my own health and wellbeing

We add deliberate friction to dangerous activities all the time. Speed bumps, for example, for those who lack the “self control” to follow the posted limits.

Re: Instagram lets users hide likes to reduce social media pressure

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Have you tried just not using it?? Or developing self control?? Surely it's like saying bottles need to be harder to get into because I like drinking alcohol too much... Or cars need to accelerate slower because I love speeding and can't resist permanently holding down the accelerator pedal, even at risk to my own health and wellbeing

It’s not that simple, it’s now well known that social media addiction is a thing. Not being able to self control is exactly what defines an addiction.

There are all manner of addictions that can be "assisted"/made worse with technology. The solution isn't in the technology though - it surely starts with the person??

Should my toaster warn me if I use it too often in an hour? I might put weight on with all that toast I am eating.

Should my coffee machine warn me if I make too many coffees? I might have too much caffeine and suffer heart problems.

Should my app warn me if I use it too much? I might be a workaholic and spend too much time in Excel.

Who is in control of the toaster? Me or the toaster? Who is in control of the coffee machine? Me or the coffee machine? Who is in control of the phone/PC/app? Me or the phone/PC/app?

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This is all anecdotal but I committed social media digicide a short while ago because I didn’t like how it was affecting my life. Constantly checking for likes, feeling an urge to participate in conversations to feel like “an important voice”. I got to the point where it wasn’t just directly affecting me but also the amount of attention I was giving my kids had dropped enough that I was mad at myself for becoming “th…

I found myself fantasizing about social media digicide, so I went for it. Totally worth it. You’ll know when you’re ready for it. I do miss keeping in touch with some older friends via my FB account. There is certainly a cost.

I can see how this could weigh on some people, and everyone's situation is different, but in my case it was just slices of other people's political views and (more often than not) photos of their pets and their lunch.

In my case I just figured if I've lost touch with people over the years there's probably a reason. I don't mean that in any ill or dramatic way, and it's equally true from their side too.

I'm not sure it's that different from an amicable break-up with a partner in that you can naturally drift apart from other people and say "hey you're going that way, I'm going this way, best of luck with everything".

Honestly I thought losing connections with people I actually did have some history with and knew well many years ago was going to be the unfortunate cost of getting off of Facebook. As it turns out, not so much. Clinging too much to the past wastes the present, and life isn't that long to begin with.

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