I hope this is one product of many and sometime in the future they cater to much smaller markets.
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#212I’m still reluctant on using appliances based on a niche OS like illuminos.
It takes a huge amount of manpower to maintain a kernel, and this effort is not shared much.
I guess that zfs is the selling point here, but still...
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#213Never been so turned on by hardware
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#214Reminded me of https://youtu.be/6KbRA2RjhgQ?t=115 :)
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#215This looks interesting (although I'm not in the target market, too small)... But if I were looking at this, judging from the quality of people they've amassed in their engineering team, is there any chance they won't be acquired in 6 months? To anyone looking to take a bet on this, what is the answer to "what's your plan for when your stellar team gets acquired?" And what answer will satisfy that buyer? Update: Addin…
Hi! So, at every step -- from conception to funding to building the team and now building the product -- we have done so to build a big, successful public company. Not only do we (the founders) share that conviction, but it is shared by our investors and employees as well. For better or for ill, we are -- as we memorably declared to one investor -- ride or die. Also, if it's of any solace, I really don't think any of…
I read through your "Compensation as a Reflection of Values" article [1] and just wanted to say that I love it. It reflects and relates so much to my own values towards work, as a life philosophy, that I felt refreshed knowing others not only think this way but also have the power to implement such a culture. Thanks for trying that, I hope it becomes something more common to workers in general.
[1] https://oxide.computer/blog/compensation-as-a-reflection-of-...
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#216This is my favorite part:
> Some will say that we should be paying people differently based on different geographical locations. I know there are thoughtful people who pay folks differently based on their zip code, but (respectfully), we disagree with this approach. Companies spin this by explaining they are merely paying people based on their cost of living, but this is absurd: do we increase someone's salary when their spouse loses their job or when their kid goes to college? Do we slash it when they inherit money from their deceased parent or move in with someone? The answer to all of these is no, of course not: we pay people based on their work, not their costs. The truth is that companies pay people less in other geographies for a simple reason: because they can. We at Oxide just don't agree with this; we pay people the same regardless of where they pick up their mail.
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#217FYI: The CTO of the Oxide Computer Company is Bryan Cantrill. (He is responding in this discussion as "bcantrill" -- I assume[!].) You can read about him on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Cantrill He also has many interesting and thoughtful recorded talks on YouTube. I highly recommend them.
I am posting this info because it seems their "team" page (https://oxide.computer/team/) is no longer working. I thought it was weird there was no way to see the senior leaders from the website. When I first opened the site, I vaguely remembered this brand name, but could not remember who was behind it.
@bcantrill: I assume this is a mistake. Plus I cannot find a 'Team' link anywhere on the current website.
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I just found section "Meet the Team" on this page: https://oxide.computer/careers
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#218I don't know if I have a use for something like this, but the website aesthetics are just plain awesome.
I like them too but just viewing the page on Firefox loads 5950X to 250%. A bit too much.
Wow. It loads almost instantly and doesn't slow down on my phone (LG G7). Must be something else?
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
"it needs to be done in the hardware itself (ie. keys burned into the silicon)" - this isn't true; this is confusing Trusted Boot and Secure Boot, which are not the same thing (nor is it the only way of implementing Secure Boot). Owner-controlled remote attestation is entirely viable, e.g. Talos II is capable of this with a FlexVer module.
> "it needs to be done in the hardware itself (ie. keys burned into the silicon)" - this isn't true; this is confusing Trusted Boot and Secure Boot, which are not the same thing (nor is it the only way of implementing Secure Boot). I meant as opposed to keys/signing done in software. >Owner-controlled remote attestation is entirely viable, e.g. Talos II is capable of this with a FlexVer module. I skimmed the product…
FlexVer doesn't hardcode any keys - you can fully reinitialize the TPM to your liking, but doing so destroys any secrets already stored. So the trick is that you initialize it for your infrastructure and have to do secure reprovisioning if it ever fails to provide the same key answers (which would indicate tampering)
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mosix and VirtualIron worked at a time 1GBps ethernet was in its infancy. Today 10GBps are consumer grade and 40GBps can go over Cat 8 copper, roughly equivalent to a DDR4-4000 channel. Not great, but this is near COTS hardware. They can do significantly better than that.
Uh no, DDR4-4000 (which servers can't use BTW) is ~256 Gigabits per second. Latency is also a killer; optimized Infiniband is ~1 us which is 10x slower than local RAM at ~100 ns.
Sorry. I wrote GBps when I should Gbps and I got myself fooled in the process. We can somewhat mitigate the latencies with good caches. The overall machine will suffer from a bad case of NUMA ,but would still behave better than a cluster.