Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

Post by noofen » Thu, May 27, 2021, 4:50 AM UTC

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I recommend reading Curtis Yarvin's recent writing on this exact topic [1]. [1]: https://graymirror.substack.com/p/there-is-no-ai-risk

I find his arguments very difficult to square with this article from 2015[1]. The prologue of [2] also paints a pretty compelling picture of how this might happen. Also > We don’t live in the world of Neuromancer and we never will. 99.9% of everything is mathematically invulnerable to hacking. Seriously made me chuckle. [1]: https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/04/07/no-physical-substrate-... [2]: https://www.amazon.com/L…

Post by tachyonbeam » Thu, May 27, 2021, 5:01 AM UTC

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AI is as much a threat to democracy as the newspaper is - they eventually become the only means of input and politicians adapt to catering to them so that they can remain on a level playing field in terms of getting their policies and (potentially sensational) messages to people.

The issue is that AI is going to make it even more economical to bombard your target with coherent information through an extremely effective means of influence (writing). Have you seen some of the posts recently about AIs getting better at writing?: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27032828 It’s much more of a threat than a bogus newspaper. I can imagine a future where the signal is even more drowned out by nois…

Post by swader999 » Thu, May 27, 2021, 5:07 AM UTC

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I personally believe we crossed that Rubicon once we granted the play store our vaccination status, contact tracing strangers etc. That was the undeniable shift towards hard totalitarianism.

Um, clearly it's not undeniable, because I deny it. What precisely scares you so much about vaccination status being somewhat public? There's precisely zero threat to any real liberties there. And it's laughable to call this "hard totalitarianism". As an aside, this didn't even happen, of course; we didn't "grant the play store our vaccination status". Never happened.

Post by ramblerman » Thu, May 27, 2021, 5:09 AM UTC

Barrin92 wrote: post #58

My personal version of 1984 is someone smashing random quotes from 1984 into my face, forever. Has nobody seriously read another book in the last few decades? And Microsoft's president even gives us a stereotypically shoddy reading of the book > "You know the fundamental story…was about a government who could see everything that everyone did and hear everything that everyone said all the time. " The actually interest…

Post by daveslash » Thu, May 27, 2021, 5:19 AM UTC

ramblerman wrote: post #107

Barrin92 wrote: post #58

My personal version of 1984 is someone smashing random quotes from 1984 into my face, forever. Has nobody seriously read another book in the last few decades? And Microsoft's president even gives us a stereotypically shoddy reading of the book > "You know the fundamental story…was about a government who could see everything that everyone did and hear everything that everyone said all the time. " The actually interest…

I think the stasi world was actually more terrifying than an AI eye in the sky. Because you couldn't trust anyone, not your friends or family. Everyone was part of a big network out to get you, so you were sort of locked in your own head. The more realistic fear for me is ending up in a cyberpunk dystopia where the world is run by 3-4 big corporations. Which is ofc not something they like to bring up.