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Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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My personal version of 1984 is someone smashing random quotes from 1984 into my face, forever. Has nobody seriously read another book in the last few decades? And Microsoft's president even gives us a stereotypically shoddy reading of the book > "You know the fundamental story…was about a government who could see everything that everyone did and hear everything that everyone said all the time. " The actually interest…

Some people get rats, some people get poorly thought out quotes and allusions.

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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post #53

(It's already happening in current times;) China recently made a movie star apologize in public, to say effectively, 'Taiwan is not a country'. I don't care what the name is, but that island just a little bit off the coast of the big country known as China, should be recognized by the UN and member nations as a sovereign nation.

The movie star did this not because he was oppressed, but because he wants the Chinese money. This doesn't make me feel sympathy for this situation.

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is SUCH a good point. This is exactly why I get all my news from HN. (not a good idea) Possibly related Noam Chimpsky paraphrased superaccuratequote - "Look at all the conflicts China is involved in, they're regional. They don't venture anywhere close to our territory. It's all posturing to coerce the obedience of their own population. Ultimately they represent no real threat and are being cast as a boogieman po…

Which context is that Chomsky quote from? The latter part makes no sense.

hence the, presumably tongue in cheek, "paraphrased superaccuratequote" warning

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

#74

More surveillance is a good thing. With more data, the government can make better decisions and be more efficient. I don't think this is anything to be scared about.

I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not so I looked at your post history. Only a few days ago you posted that you didn't want to post more information because you wanted to avoid doxxing yourself. Surely you see the irony here?

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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post #32

It seems that some tech executives, having more money than any person could spend, often seek what they see as the next level of accomplishment, which is proximity to power and decisions over life and death. That shows up as this sort of militaristic nationalism along lines that conveniently happen to align with their claimed expertise. Of course neither of the executives interviewed in this article really knows that…

You don’t think AI is a “threat to democracy”? I think the threat isn’t just AI being used by governments to control citizens. Advertising companies want to influence behavior too, and their customers are mostly private corporations. They already have a lot of power and advertising is a $100+ Billion dollar industry for a reason.. it works. If you haven’t seen it, I’d encourage you to watch Can’t Get You Out of My He…

AI is as much a threat to democracy as the newspaper is - they eventually become the only means of input and politicians adapt to catering to them so that they can remain on a level playing field in terms of getting their policies and (potentially sensational) messages to people.

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is SUCH a good point. This is exactly why I get all my news from HN. (not a good idea) Possibly related Noam Chimpsky paraphrased superaccuratequote - "Look at all the conflicts China is involved in, they're regional. They don't venture anywhere close to our territory. It's all posturing to coerce the obedience of their own population. Ultimately they represent no real threat and are being cast as a boogieman po…

Which context is that Chomsky quote from? The latter part makes no sense.

It's actually a Noam Chimpsky quote

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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My personal version of 1984 is someone smashing random quotes from 1984 into my face, forever. Has nobody seriously read another book in the last few decades? And Microsoft's president even gives us a stereotypically shoddy reading of the book > "You know the fundamental story…was about a government who could see everything that everyone did and hear everything that everyone said all the time. " The actually interest…

Doesn’t require A, but the I is absolutely required, intelligence is what the Stasi did.

Automating what we know is a dangerous policy should not be treated as lightly as you’ve put it just because you are bored of people quoting 1984 to you.

Have you considered the reason they are quoting it more and more lately might be because real life has been getting closer and closer to it?

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

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post #53

(It's already happening in current times;) China recently made a movie star apologize in public, to say effectively, 'Taiwan is not a country'. I don't care what the name is, but that island just a little bit off the coast of the big country known as China, should be recognized by the UN and member nations as a sovereign nation.

John Cena had to do the same recently. Shameful.

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

#79

My personal version of 1984 is someone smashing random quotes from 1984 into my face, forever. Has nobody seriously read another book in the last few decades? And Microsoft's president even gives us a stereotypically shoddy reading of the book > "You know the fundamental story…was about a government who could see everything that everyone did and hear everything that everyone said all the time. " The actually interest…

> fertile ground for people to accept fiction over truth

The ground was always fertile, the only thing that changed was that such power used to be monopolized.

Re: Microsoft president: Orwell’s 1984 could happen in 2024

#80

My personal version of 1984 is someone smashing random quotes from 1984 into my face, forever. Has nobody seriously read another book in the last few decades? And Microsoft's president even gives us a stereotypically shoddy reading of the book > "You know the fundamental story…was about a government who could see everything that everyone did and hear everything that everyone said all the time. " The actually interest…

Also the suspicion and mistrust around families and neighbors reporting each other to the authorities.
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