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Re: Neovim 0.5 is overpowering

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Post by e12e »

dangom wrote: post #237

Does neovim, or vim for that matter, offer any out of the box support for remote work like Emacs has with tramp-mode? Asking because maybe it's time to try NeoVim out, but it'd be a limitation for my work if I had to go through extra hops for editing remote files and running remote jupyter kernels. I suppose it does, so I'd be grateful if vimmers out there would share their favorite solutions.

> Does neovim, or vim for that matter, offer any out of the box support for remote work like Emacs has with tramp-mode?

Not really like tramp mode (doesn't magically (s)ftp files around), but there's headless and tcp connect support, like:

https://github.com/Kethku/neovide#remote-tcp-support

https://neovim.io/doc/user/remote.html

However - this looks closer? "Seamlessly editing remote files in (Neo)Vim with Netrw and scp" https://gist.github.com/RRethy/ad8a9a3b1112a48226ec3336fa981...

Re: Neovim 0.5 is overpowering

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Post by pta2002 »

skrtskrt wrote: post #23

I switched from vim to neovim because I thought I needed to to use coc.nvim - turns out I didn't need to, coc.nvim works in vim 8+ As a neovim user who is just having neovim load my vimrc - nothing neovim specific -, I don't see a huge difference. Are there features I am missing out on? I do like the idea of having everything in my vimrc so I could still use it with vim on a server if needed.

One thing I immediately noticed is how much better neovim's built in terminal is when compared to vim! Vim's seems very barebones, afaik doesn't even support 24 bit color. Neovim meanwhile uses libvte IIRC which means it's a full on terminal emulator. I can run nvim inside nvim inside nvim and everything still works just fine!

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Post by nucleardog »

alpaca128 wrote: post #178
bisby wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That explains a lot. I often have a syntax highlighting quirk where it thinks that a fold has an open quotation mark in it. And will highlight everything below the fold as if it's a part of a string. I unfold, and clears it all up. but it's annoying in the moment. I look forward to all of this

You can often fix it with `:syntax sync fromstart`, but Vim's syntax highlighting just keeps being a bit weird.

I usually just keep space bound along the lines of:

    :noremap   :silent noh echo:syn sync fromstart
This recalculates syntax highlighting as well as removes highlighting on search results/etc.

Basically, whenever stuff "looks weird", just mash space in normal mode and it fixes it. The fact that I have this bound to something like space should tell you how often I end up using it. :)

Re: Neovim 0.5 is overpowering

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Post by dangom »

Scarbutt wrote: post #246
dangom wrote: post #237

Does neovim, or vim for that matter, offer any out of the box support for remote work like Emacs has with tramp-mode? Asking because maybe it's time to try NeoVim out, but it'd be a limitation for my work if I had to go through extra hops for editing remote files and running remote jupyter kernels. I suppose it does, so I'd be grateful if vimmers out there would share their favorite solutions.

Open Vim or Emacs on the remote server. A strength about those two is they work from the terminal.

I like to mix and match local and remote files in the same Emacs frame. I know they work remotely, but that'd require me to configure them in the remote - and sometimes that's a pain because Emacs versions differ, or because the keybindings I press in the terminal sometimes coincide with Emacs commands.

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Post by lelanthran »

knuthsat wrote: post #105
azinman2 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you find your brain can actually work that way? My issue with all of these relative jump points, repeat this N times, etc of VIM is by the time I’ve calculated in my mind what the command should be I’d have already done it with just standard navigation/mark/yank/repeat. But perhaps you have galaxy brain ;)

Yeah, just recently I had to edit text like this 'name1', 'name2', 'name3', to: 'name1': Enum.Name1, 'name2': Enum.Name2, 'name3': Enum.Name3, by the time I figured out a sequence of keyboard commands I'm pretty sure I could have multicursored it pretty easily, go to name1, create 2 cursors, select word & copy, start typing : Enum., paste selected word, select word, capitalize, type , In vim it was something like qdy…

Column editing in vim: https://youtu.be/dYDu9Hrg7yM?t=639

I saw a colleague doing the same thing (turn column of #defines into structs in an array) with multiple cursors in an IDE, took him much longer.

I paused to take a drag from my smoke while doing that.

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Post by thomastjeffery »

tombh wrote: post #212

I'm in the curiously rare position of being a long time Neo/vim user who doesn't use its modal features. Namely I have all my keybindings setup like a "normal" editor, CTRL+S to save etc. I say it's curious because I've always been surprised that Neo/vim is mainly celebrated as "that modal editor". Whereas for me I celebrate it as the most feature-packed and lightweight terminal editor. Neo/vim is sooo much more than…

Insert mode is a great text writing app on its own, but normal mode is the best text editor I have encountered.

Being able to move to a specific part of a file quickly, edit a specific part of a file quickly, repeat that edit on a different part of the file (with .), write out an editing action as pain text and save that as a macro... The list goes on.

The only thing I don't like about vim (normal mode) is that the keybinds and context are hardcoded. Sure, you can remap them, but that only gets you so far.

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Post by staticshock »

frederikvs wrote: post #233
curriculum wrote: post #37

I'm most excited for the treesitter integration and its potential to amplify Vim's "killer feature": text editing as a language. Vim's editing language feels most powerful when I'm using its text objects: "ciw" means "change in word", "cis" means "change in sentence", and so on. But Vim's built-in text objects are not always a perfect match for the code you're editing. Suppose you want to change the first argument of…

I just have vim-angry installed. It gives me "cia" and friends, though without the count you mention. Sounds like treesitter will have more flexibility, but for now the vim-angry plugin does what I need it to :-)

Seconded. vim-angry is an excellent plugin that exposes args as text objects.

In an expression such as (foo, ba|r, baz), where | is the cursor, it does the following:

via - (foo, |bar|, baz)

vaa - (foo|, bar|, baz)

vaA - (foo, |bar, |baz)

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Post by oblio »

tombh wrote: post #212

I'm in the curiously rare position of being a long time Neo/vim user who doesn't use its modal features. Namely I have all my keybindings setup like a "normal" editor, CTRL+S to save etc. I say it's curious because I've always been surprised that Neo/vim is mainly celebrated as "that modal editor". Whereas for me I celebrate it as the most feature-packed and lightweight terminal editor. Neo/vim is sooo much more than…

I didn't go that far, but for small movements I use arrow keys. hjkl don't make any sense to me and I'm not keen on using them just because someone had that keyboard layout in 1978.

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Post by overgard »

sigzero wrote: post #138
overgard wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people realistically are willing to write vimscript plugins, vs how many people realistically are willing to write Lua? I know personally, after wresting with vimscript for a couple of days I'd never touch it again, but Lua is nice.

New vimscript plugins are created constantly. So that isn't a good argument metric.

In a vacuum where there was no need for legacy vim support (lets say vim integrated lua), I can't imagine anyone but a small minority preferring vimscript over lua. My argument isn't that nobody programs vimscript, it's that hardly anyone does it by choice.

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Post by gameswithgo »

mjlbach wrote: post #61
rajin444 wrote: post #27

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I tried out the native LSP support few months ago and the docs + features for it seemed poor. I went back to coc.vim

Have you checked it out recently? I overhauled the documentation twice since January. Most recently, I dramatically simplified the documentation based on user feedback, expanded the wiki pages, and created an "advanced" readme for power users.

thank you
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