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Re: Freenode Exists for FOSS

#21
I have to admit I'm not up to speed on the current events, but this article is something that no company or organisation should be proud to have hosted on their website.

It just seems so cocky and immature. I don't think it's a good look for Freenode. Normally I would have thought Freenode is a respectable organisation, this article gives me a very different feel.

Re: Freenode Exists for FOSS

#22

Can someone better-immersed in IRC culture explain why the temperature is still so high? All the summaries I've read have amounted to nothing, and comments on all of these things just look like kindergartners shouting at each other.

I’m not immersed in IRC culture but I used to hang out on Freenode a bit, and I think it’s quite obvious that top-down dictatorial decisions like the recent “hijacking” of channels for mentioning Libera (or whatever actually happened there) are toxic to community building. To the people actually doing the community building, choosing Freenode now looks a bit like founding a city in the shadow of an active volcano, with a capricious force immune to accountability who can (and demonstrably will) nuke your decades-old community structures without any meaningful warning.

FOSS is rife with stupid drama and I don’t think either “side” here is an exception, but the recent “purge” goes above and beyond. I would absolutely never consider trying to start a community there now, for entirely pragmatic reasons.

Re: Freenode Exists for FOSS

#23

I have to admit I'm not up to speed on the current events, but this article is something that no company or organisation should be proud to have hosted on their website. It just seems so cocky and immature. I don't think it's a good look for Freenode. Normally I would have thought Freenode is a respectable organisation, this article gives me a very different feel.

In case you missed it, last week the staff running freenode for 20 years were evicted by legal threats and the sudden change in how the network is run is because of new management.

The old staff are running https://libera.chat/

Re: Freenode Exists for FOSS

#24
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So the new staff is: * a deluded President (rasengan) picking grandiose self-titles * a head of training who was fired from Rizon for leaking user data (foxy) * someone who wants to build a pan-irc surveillance apparatus (bagira) [1] * someone who was ejected from the IRCv3 working group for persistent harrassment (eskimo) [2] and they all have access to user data, including being able to see through cloaks to real c…

Every channel on Freenode that mentioned 'libera' in any capacity has been joined by a bot, had the topic renamed, ownership removed, all users deopped/unvoiced and all bans cleared. Something that was against Freenode policy... until yesterday. They also nuked private channels that were being used for Wikimedia and Wikipedia's editor communications. https://pastebin.com/S2sDiiPE Clown Prince wants to be a Dictator.

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