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USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

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Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

#112

Plus, if you thread the cable through your hot dog, it will be warm in time for lunch. Meanwhile, Apple's M1 chip is showing us that 240 watt laptops are the problem, not the solution...

On the other hand, I would love to use an M1 chip that makes use of 240 watts. Could you imagine the power? Give me the option to trade efficiency for horsepower. When I hear things like "My M1 mac never turns on the fans" I wonder why the system isn't clocking higher if the cooling system is running so comfortably.

Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

#113
post #11

I look forward to USB 4.1a Type C.2 Phase iii.b Gen 3E and the 482646282 different cable capability combinations that all plug in and have no distinction of those capabilities whatsoever. I also look forward to all the necessary and helpful posts telling me how the identical ports on my laptop are in fact diffferent despite their identical appearance. But at least everything uses the same plug, so that’s nice.

I haven't had to delve into the world of trying to find an appropriate USB-C cable until fairly recently. I didn't actually understand the situation thinking a replacement USB-C cable should just work.

Oh hell no and none of the packaging actually explains what features a cable supports, none of them actually explain what the cable is actually compatible with. The little android logo doesn't mean shit. Sure, you might be able to slowly charge your phone with a particular cable, but it doesn't mean it'll do anything else it's supposed to do.

Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

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post #11

I look forward to USB 4.1a Type C.2 Phase iii.b Gen 3E and the 482646282 different cable capability combinations that all plug in and have no distinction of those capabilities whatsoever. I also look forward to all the necessary and helpful posts telling me how the identical ports on my laptop are in fact diffferent despite their identical appearance. But at least everything uses the same plug, so that’s nice.

We should give anyone involved in the USB-IF a test: Here are 10 different cables, you must accurately describe each of their features in detail (USB speeds, charging speeds/power delivery, video out? What version of Display Port does it support?). Make one mistake and you'll be executed. Obviously I don't advocate for that but it's damn annoying you can have one cable do so many different things and not know by look…

> These days I plug in a cable and prey it functions as advertised (sometimes it's 50/50).

Are you preying on the folks at USB-IF?

Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

#117
post #52

Powering 90% of the things in your house via DC power should be the future, no more switching from DC solar/battery back to AC and then back to DC again for no reason.

The reason is that AC can be easily transformed to very high voltages which allow power transmission over long distances with lower losses. I doubt this is going to change any time soon. Of course, you could still have central DC conversion in your house (or maybe even neighborhood) and use USB or similar in your home’s wall outlets, instead of each device needing its own little power brick.

DC is can be better over a certain distance because AC loses a lot of energy to heat. the pacific intertie is DC.

Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

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post #114

I mean I like simple standards, but at what point do i have to start worrying about my mouse electrocuting me because my cat chewed the cable?

I mean your cat could have chewed through your laptop cable previously.

Your mouse, if using USB-C, is only going to have the current it needs to run. So it'll be super low mw at 5v. Its not going to be doing 240w on it. USB power delivery isnt like your wall outlets, it asks and receives power depending on the need.

Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

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post #48
post #12

Laptops shouldn't ever need 240W. That's just getting stupid. Buy a desktop if this is what you need!

No thanks, I’ll keep my gaming laptop. Far more portable than a desktop, lots of compute overhead, and I can use it for games. At home it’s basically a desktop with external keyboard and monitors. Oh yeah, and when it’s not being used with the dedicated graphics card, it gets 6-9 hours of battery life. Oh, almost forgot - it’s lighter and about the same size as my 2012 13” MBP.

Does it require 240 watts?

Re: USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, enough to power beefier laptops

#120
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your carpet cannot negotiate a high power, but two devices might negotiate a high power while not being aware that that the cable has a cut in it and is in direct contact with the carpet.

Yeah that's the problem. I've had a bent usb c (from a pretty good brand) literally melt into my hands. I'm so glad I was using the phone at the time, I don't know what could've happened if I wasn't there. The dent seemed pretty "small" too, and it was way less damaged than a lot of lightning/micro USB cables I've seen and used in the past. What I don't understand is how the cable doesn't have a way to detect a short…

I don't think the non-USB-c cables have any more safety features to prevent that. I'd be surprised if the USB-C ones do.
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