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> Give Neovim 0.5 a try, you will find that it is not difficult to make it as powerful as VSCode Does Neovim support webviews in extensions? Can it? There are a lot of useful visualization tools that VS Code allows that require them. It's one of the most powerful features of the editor, imo.
(Yes, I know people don't do a lot of SSH-ing and coding these days)
I have an honest question, the real advantage of Vi is its installed everywhere, and just works over ssh. What is the benefit of a terminal IDE like neovim or vim with tens of something plugins? Vscode or other powerful IDEs do the work much better.
Ah and vim is text editor, not really an ide.
Does anyone know of a nice git interface for Neovim? I would love to get off of emacs, but it's hard to beat Magit. At the very least something that lets me view the repo status and stage selections would be good.
I have an honest question, the real advantage of Vi is its installed everywhere, and just works over ssh. What is the benefit of a terminal IDE like neovim or vim with tens of something plugins? Vscode or other powerful IDEs do the work much better.
The difference for me, is that I only have what I want.
My requirements for an editor are:
1) Fast If I need to jump on a server, I do not suddenly forget how to use Vim without my .vimrc.
I have an honest question, the real advantage of Vi is its installed everywhere, and just works over ssh. What is the benefit of a terminal IDE like neovim or vim with tens of something plugins? Vscode or other powerful IDEs do the work much better.
What I stayed for, is how much closer to the "metal" it makes me feel. I started programming in IntelliJ, but using that I always wondered what was going on in the background. If I click on the green "play" icon, what happens? That magic is gone when using something like Vim without plugins. Configuring it to do everything you ever need yourself, however, can be quite a pain. So I gradually added plugins, to delegate the nitty gritty config work to plugin creators, making sure I understand what those plugins are actually doing, in order to not get back to a "I have no clue what my editor does" situation.
> Vscode or other powerful IDEs do the work much better.
The thing about Neovim is that this quote is becoming less true by the minute. Also, nvim can do some things that I don't think are possible in other editors. Have you tried embedding IntelliJ in your browser? :)
I use nvim in the terminal and gvim/macvim on the desktop. I don't like how the nvim community seems to be throwing themselves wholeheartedly into lua and lua-only plugins (vimscript plugins are better because they work with both vim and neovim). Switching to init.lua also means losing all compatibility with vim, and I cannot fathom why people would want to do that considering that there is nothing that init.vim cann…
Honestly Vimscript 9 always felt like a serious case of "not invented here". Bram could have easily chosen one of many existing languages, but instead decided to take Vimscript and make it even more bizarre (this was even more so the case at first as IIRC block delimiters for example were really odd).
Setting that aside, you could also argue that people moving their Vimscript plugins over to Vimscript 9 is a problem on their end because it makes the plugins incompatible with NeoVim. In other words, the argument is basically silly.
As a very casual Emacs user who never got excited enough for the "self-documenting and programmable editor" idea, VIM gets more appealing by the day for me. I am also using Spacemacs for a year or so and it's definitely better than normal Emacs. Haven't tried Doom Emacs and I doubt that I will, regardless of a lot of positive feedback.
I mean, Emacs is alright but I am just not in the club of the people who'll use 25% of their workday chasing an Elisp error and maybe fix a plugin in the process. Always hated the heavy IDEs like Eclipse and IDEA so this led me to Emacs but I still prefer stuff to come semi-configured out of the box. I know that NeoVIM will require some love for that but I'm prepared to do it because it looks like much less work than Emacs.
I'll try Emacs' `native-comp` branch for supposed quicker Elisp operation but I don't have much hope that it will help my grievances.
Sadly, my 19 years of casual Emacs usage are coming to an end soon.
I'm looking forward to trying NeoVIM.
Does anyone know of a nice git interface for Neovim? I would love to get off of emacs, but it's hard to beat Magit. At the very least something that lets me view the repo status and stage selections would be good.
Why quit emacs when evil-mode exists? Fast startup times are solved by never quitting emacs :) Really, emacsclient starts nearly instantly, and all the heavy stuff like language servers and emacs proper just run in server mode. (Disclaimer: I know enough vi and often use it.)