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This whole freenoda issue is a problem primarily because of the control of the domain name. Who controls libera.chat domain? It says it is a swedish nonprofit (although I cant see any specifics on their website), but the unredacted portions of the whois show it is owned by an Icelandic entity. Sounds like scope for more future drama...
This whole freenoda issue is a problem primarily because of the control of the domain name. Who controls libera.chat domain? It says it is a swedish nonprofit (although I cant see any specifics on their website), but the unredacted portions of the whois show it is owned by an Icelandic entity. Sounds like scope for more future drama...
Is https://libera.chat/about specific enough?
Why is the domain owned by an icelandic entity instead of the nonprofit?
Where is the company registration number of the nonprofit (required to open a bank account - where will donations be held, etc).
Its all very vague and handwavy at the moment - just like early days of freenode...
EDIT: Loads of downvotes, but why? Any of you want to leave a comment instead of just downvoting?
The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?
This whole freenoda issue is a problem primarily because of the control of the domain name. Who controls libera.chat domain? It says it is a swedish nonprofit (although I cant see any specifics on their website), but the unredacted portions of the whois show it is owned by an Icelandic entity. Sounds like scope for more future drama...
The Swedish non-profit is still in bureaucracy approval from what I've heard from their staff, but you can already look at their bylaws[1].
[0]: https://withheldforprivacy.com [1]: https://libera.chat/bylaws
This whole freenoda issue is a problem primarily because of the control of the domain name. Who controls libera.chat domain? It says it is a swedish nonprofit (although I cant see any specifics on their website), but the unredacted portions of the whois show it is owned by an Icelandic entity. Sounds like scope for more future drama...
Libera.Chat is likely owned by the Swedish Non profit. The Icelandic entity you see in the whois is the privacy protection of "with held for privacy"[0], a privacy DNS entity. The Swedish non-profit is still in bureaucracy approval from what I've heard from their staff, but you can already look at their bylaws[1]. [0]: https://withheldforprivacy.com [1]: https://libera.chat/bylaws
The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?
This whole freenoda issue is a problem primarily because of the control of the domain name. Who controls libera.chat domain? It says it is a swedish nonprofit (although I cant see any specifics on their website), but the unredacted portions of the whois show it is owned by an Icelandic entity. Sounds like scope for more future drama...
Libera.Chat is likely owned by the Swedish Non profit. The Icelandic entity you see in the whois is the privacy protection of "with held for privacy"[0], a privacy DNS entity. The Swedish non-profit is still in bureaucracy approval from what I've heard from their staff, but you can already look at their bylaws[1]. [0]: https://withheldforprivacy.com [1]: https://libera.chat/bylaws
Why does a nonprofit organisation need this privacy protection? The org is the identity that should control it, and the information of the org is a matter of public knowledge (if it REALLY exists, which isnt clear either.)
These issues are critical for the trust that the libera.chat domain isn't suddenly going to be pointing elsewhere due to it not being control by the "trusted" org.
The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?