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Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by aisofteng »

I see a lot of negativity here, and I do agree about the daily ping which I see you’re removing, which I think is a good move.

As someone that has done cloud development at a giant corporation that offers public cloud, I think that this tool absolutely has an enterprise use case. In my particular experience at my particular (tens of billion dollars plus yearly revenue) previous employer, our SREs would have massively benefitted from having this. I’ve been woken up at 3am while on call for L3 support just to step out SREs through tools we wrote to help them do their jobs that we failed to adequately train them on and/or that they didn’t have the bandwidth to absorb due to the volume of services they were tasked to support.

From that point of view, supporting macOS first is the right move in my opinion because at enterprises developers are standardizing on macOS, and so are SREs.

This can solve a real pain point. Best of luck! And if it may happen to be helpful, let me know if you’d like to chat about this use case in more detail.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by marlor »

arcturus17 wrote: post #177
dvt wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just adding, from their website: > Investors: We've raised several million dollars from amazing VCs like General Catalyst and Kleiner Perkins, and angels like Jason Warner, Adam Gross, Olivier Pomel, Scott Belsky, Will Gaybrick and a handful of other impressive dev tool founders and executives. The fact that a CLI tool raised millions of dollars while also being basically powered by open-source contributions is also…

WTF indeed. There has to be some grand vision behind this, presumably large-scale data capture. At the end of the day, the terminal is is to the dev what Google is to the internet user: the point of entry where many journeys begin, with dozens or hundreds of interactions every day. And while devs are a niche market compared to Google's userbase, they are a lucrative and strategic one nonetheless. Casting aside the en…

Yes, but when you’re Googling, you’re searching for public information.

When you’re using the terminal, you’re mostly manipulating your own data, often in ways that would reveal sensitive information if your terminal history was leaked.

Any attempt to collect data from users’ terminal interactions is indistinguishable from keylogging.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by ashneo76 »

throwawayboise wrote: post #60

Judging from the other comments I'm in the minority here, but I use the command line precisely to avoid this kind of pop-up distracting stuff. I'm one of those programmers who disables intellisense, etc. as much as I can.

I am with you. Imo the shell is where I go to focus. Not constantly get distracted by colors and popups. Also, I don't need a VC backed disingenuous tool spying on me

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by [deleted] »

dannyw wrote: post #53
billiam wrote: post #33

Can I pay you money for this awesome product so I don't feel bad about opting out of your telemetry? What's fair? I think a lot of us would do this voluntarily. Your privacy disclosure is great--I just don't want to be the product on principle.

You shouldn't feel bad for opting out of telemetry!

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Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by ashneo76 »

billiam wrote: post #33

Can I pay you money for this awesome product so I don't feel bad about opting out of your telemetry? What's fair? I think a lot of us would do this voluntarily. Your privacy disclosure is great--I just don't want to be the product on principle.

Nobody should feel bad about opting out of telemetry. It is your privacy. They should feel bad for not asking for your permission and getting consent in the first place. And making it obscure. Ironic coming from a "discoverable" app. Please donate money to actual free software and standards. Not some VC coopted "open source"

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by evil-olive »

brendanfalk wrote: post #73
yogevyuval wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly do you mean by even when in SSH or docker?

As in, if you SSH into a remote machine, Fig can offer completions for that remote machine. Same thing if you are running an interactive terminal for a docker container. This image may help clarify: https://fig.io/images/slideshow/screenshots/ssh.png

I assume this is done by running 'ls' in the background and not showing the execution to the user, except as autocomplete suggestions?

if I type 'sudo cp ' will it run 'sudo ls' to offer suggestions?

this...is not good. my terminal should not be executing code on my behalf on remote servers I've SSHed to.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by shadeslayer_ »

lasfter wrote: post #287

I detest that it has become normalized to grant tech companies access to personal data with only limp promises that it won't be misused. If you give Fig permissions to look at what you are typing into the terminal, you should be prepared for them to look at what you are typing into the terminal and use it how it best serves them . They're asking for more permissions than that of course. Imagine giving FedEx a copy of…

Is there another way to achieve what the product tries to do? Genuinely asking.
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