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Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by Firerouge »

ghostly_s wrote: post #125
skzv wrote: post #100

I wrote a quick script the other day to colorize directories of family photos. I realized it would be cool to colorize these photos, too. Here's the album: https://imgur.com/a/aJbpMjf The script uses the Image Colorization API from DeepAi. Here's the repo for the colorizing model itself: https://github.com/jantic/DeOldify I don't think the DeepAi API allows you to adjust the model parameters, but you definitely can i…

Please don't do this.

Why not? I've also colorized pictures and video frames using these same sorts of processes. It's reasonably quick and works pretty well

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by hvs »

vmception wrote: post #78

I saw a French movie about a French soldier in Vietnam set in 1945 I was also in France at the time when viewing the movie, it was very surreal in so many ways to be empathizing for a protagonist on one of the enemy sides - from an American perspective as I am an American. But I had never seen anything depicted about that war decades before the US got involved. I had never seen a war movie produced outside of Hollywo…

There are some depictions of the French occupation of Vietnam in the beginning of "We Were Soldiers".

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by refurb »

The sourcing of these photos is terrible. Several are from before the US involvement, namely the Plain of Reeds photo which is from the French War in Indochina.

Plus, many of these photos are staged propaganda photos, in particular the battle scenes. After an enemy surrendered, POWs would often be told to “recreate” the battle. Actually battle photographs from the north are blurry and a bit more chaotic.

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by larzang »

diplomatpuppy wrote: post #99
platinumrad wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are aware that Vietnam was eventually reunified under the North right? And that it's nothing like North Korea today?

Yes, Vietnam is awesome - and there's a lot of capitalism going on even if it's not official. But it's also no South Korea or Taiwan as far as development. The Vietnamese people are smart, clever, hard-working, and I really do appreciate them and I hope their government gets out of their way so they can shine.

I must have missed the parts where South Korea and Taiwan were bombed into the stone age for years and then forced to repeatedly fight their neighbors for continued survival.

From the virtually complete annihilation of civilian infrastructure in the north to the widespread deforestation, poisoning, and unexploded ordinance in the south, the US barely left a country behind. Such comparisons are incredibly disingenuous without a view of how long Vietnam had to spend just rebuilding functioning infrastructure, education, etc and all without wealthy foreign investment. The Vietnamese people and government should be applauded for everything they have achieved.

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by xwdv »

Firerouge wrote: post #131
ghostly_s wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't do this.

Why not? I've also colorized pictures and video frames using these same sorts of processes. It's reasonably quick and works pretty well

It’s fake, and pretty soon people will not even want to entertain the idea of looking at photos or videos that are not in color.

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by bavent »

lightgreen wrote: post #109
bavent wrote: post #91

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"shithole countries" - clearly you have never been to Vietnam.

No I haven't been to Vietnam specifically, but I've been to other countries. Also, you don't need to visit a country to learn what it's GDP per capita compared to other countries in the region. And you don't need to visit the country to learn that it's citizen are used as a source of cheap unskilled labour, in the country and abroad. Vietnam is not doing too bad though, they are gradually switching to proper market e…

Somehow I just knew if I looked back in your comment history, I would find some racism, and an impressive amount of dead/flagged comments. Take the hint dude, a lot of people think you're wrong, a lot. This doesn't mean you're being persecuted, by the way. It can just mean you're wrong. It's ok. I'm wrong a lot too. Maybe reflect on your opinions a bit and reconsider a few of them?

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by Moodles »

ghostly_s wrote: post #125
skzv wrote: post #100

I wrote a quick script the other day to colorize directories of family photos. I realized it would be cool to colorize these photos, too. Here's the album: https://imgur.com/a/aJbpMjf The script uses the Image Colorization API from DeepAi. Here's the repo for the colorizing model itself: https://github.com/jantic/DeOldify I don't think the DeepAi API allows you to adjust the model parameters, but you definitely can i…

Please don't do this.

Why? Have you tried just not clicking on the album?

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by yongjik »

cpleppert wrote: post #97
yongjik wrote: post #13

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Well, during and after the Korean War, South Korea was under a corrupt dictator who killed several hundred thousand civilians for being communist. Its economy didn't improve until 60s, and it couldn't be really called a democratic country until mid-90s. So it's a bit of a stretch to claim that South Korea became today's South Korea because it survived the war in 1953. One could equally say that Vietnam's economic dev…

South Korea started growing rapidly by the beginning of the 1960's and its economic growth has been consistent regardless of the political regime [^1]. What has been consistent was a significantly different economic system than the North, which would certainly not have survived unification after a North Korean victory. Military spending can't explain the disparity between the North and South as China had similar econ…

South Korea was fortunate in that its second dictator, despite being an utterly despicable human shitbag, had a knack for economic development (or maybe he had good economic aides - I don't know). However, its 60s economic system was about as capitalist as 90s China - it was built upon massive government projects to boost export, allocated to large corporations, and the government repressed wages and crushed labor unions so that these corporations could stay competitive.

In fact there were strong parallels to the Soviet economic plans, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-Year_Plans_of_South_Korea

vs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-year_plans_of_the_Soviet_...

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

jimmies wrote: post #108
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #57

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They won, but the cost was enormous. We grieve 58,000 deaths, but they lost more than a million (the figures are very fuzzy). Their soldiers lived rough as hell, and weren't particularly well-equipped. We bombed the living hell out of them. We used napalm. Being an NVC was a tough gig. From what I can see, Vietnam is actually starting to thrive, and I sincerely wish them the best.

To put that into perspective, the US has lost more than half a million people due to the Coronavirus. Vietnam lost 50 people. And there was no war.

How do you know that Vietnam has only lost 50 people?

Re: Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side

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Post by trs8080 »

lightgreen wrote: post #121
emkoemko wrote: post #92

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USA took Iranian independence and that didn't do anything but give them a dictator who gave/sold oil for cheap to the US/UK; Afghanistan was better of before US took it... now Taliban controls more territory then they did before US came in... list of countries that depended on the USA that got totally screwed over is larger then the list of a few that USA let become rich and prosperous.

> USA took Iranian independence Iran problems began with islamic revolution, and USA had nothing to do with it, no? > Afghanistan was better of before US took it Which conflict you are talking about? War in Afghanistan started almost 50 years ago. > now Taliban controls more territory then they did before US came in Yeah, the US need to finish what it started. I think Trump decision to withdraw troops from Afghanista…

> Iran problems began with islamic revolution, and USA had nothing to do with it, no?

This is incorrect. In 1953, the United States overthrew the democratically elected PM and installed a dictator. The Islamic Revolution was a response to that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

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