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Charlie Bit My Finger video to be taken off YouTube after selling for £500k

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Re: Charlie Bit My Finger video to be taken off YouTube after selling for £500k

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Post by daniellarusso »

paradygm wrote: post #155
daniellarusso wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, I have been working on a very stupid idea for some time now, that actually started as a social fart sharing app, record your farts, etc. Then, I needed a way to make sure people were actually sharing farts, and not other noises (like burps or dog barks). So, ML to the rescue. Train on a corpus of real fart audio and other sounds. But then, I needed to make sure the farts were not copies or derivative works. So, a…

Someone already beat you to it https://nypost.com/2021/03/18/nyc-man-sells-fart-for-85-cash...

That proved the market exists. The US alone could create trillions of dollars of NFT value in hours.

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Post by OJFord »

ALittleLight wrote: post #17

I would describe myself, usually, as not a jealous man. I don't recollect the last time I've felt jealousy. But, something about NFTs provokes anger within me. Maybe that anger is jealously. It feels like NFTs are a mockery of the "market" for lack of a better word. When I think of what I would need to sell (items or time doing labor) to get these amounts and how incredibly useless NFTs actually are... It's frustrati…

The dumbest thing about them in my haven't-been-bothered-to-so-much-as-search-for-them understanding (first and only really heard about them from Matt Levine's Money Stuff column) is that.. I can represent a painting or whatever as md5sum, sha256sum, anything else sum; take the photo again or compress it first?

Unless I really should read up on it because I'll be blown away, just seems like any uniqueness necessarily hinges entirely on hoe you choose to encode a thing, which is arbitrary, meaningless, and pointless?

But then, I haven't made any money from it, people have, what do I know.

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

1cvmask wrote: post #154
tailspin2019 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NFTs are like the modern day equivalent of Tracy Emin’s unmade bed [0] It’s funny to think back at how many people were horrified about that being considered “art” at the time. Compared to {what I see as} the complete lack of *actual value* in some of these high profile NFTs, I’d say that bed now looks like the highest of high art. I appreciate I might be missing something, but I do not understand one bit of the psyc…

And how about Duchamp’s Fountain and Piero Manzoni’s Artist’s Shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit

Truly, it goes back quite some way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Fleece

And that's what we have on record today.

I can imagine some hominid tribe prized the perfectly straight banana, or whatever, beyond belief.

Re: Charlie Bit My Finger video to be taken off YouTube after selling for £500k

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Post by daniellarusso »

ajcp wrote: post #157
daniellarusso wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, I have been working on a very stupid idea for some time now, that actually started as a social fart sharing app, record your farts, etc. Then, I needed a way to make sure people were actually sharing farts, and not other noises (like burps or dog barks). So, ML to the rescue. Train on a corpus of real fart audio and other sounds. But then, I needed to make sure the farts were not copies or derivative works. So, a…

...do you take personal checks?

Sure!

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Post by gregsadetsky »

The "post Internet" artist Brad Troemel has insightful takes on the art world, and posts them to his Patreon and Instagram accounts. He recently released a 42 minute "NFT report":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBxVFsHBJQ

It touches upon "what is an NFT", but also the reasons why artists are interested in them, and where the (crypto) money is coming from.

His take (I don't mean to TLDW, the video is really worth watching) is that NFTs are loved by people from the crypto world because it "finally" gives a clear utility to crypto/the blockchain (aside from speculation/trading/gambling), and it's simultaneously beneficial to artists who can bypass the traditional art market with all of its gatekeepers and be on the receiving end of huge sums spent by crypto whales (who can't "do" much with their crypto savings anyway)

Worth the watch!

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Post by echelon »

bigdollopenergy wrote: post #118
ALittleLight wrote: post #17

I would describe myself, usually, as not a jealous man. I don't recollect the last time I've felt jealousy. But, something about NFTs provokes anger within me. Maybe that anger is jealously. It feels like NFTs are a mockery of the "market" for lack of a better word. When I think of what I would need to sell (items or time doing labor) to get these amounts and how incredibly useless NFTs actually are... It's frustrati…

I recently heard someone say "I'm not stupid enough to make money in this market", and I think it rings very true. With the short squeeze speculation on stocks, the crypto run+crash and NFT's. The market is a very confusing place nowadays. You'd have to be bonkers to invest in these things on paper, but yet, lot's of people are making bank from it every day (and vice versa). NFT is probably the most confusing of the…

It gets even crazier.

https://nft.gamestop.com

GME as an NFT?

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

ping_pong wrote: post #48
whack wrote: post #36

> Sunday's spending spree means the mysterious anonymous bidder will become the owner of the Charlie Bit My Finger clip. > its owner does not actually buy the copyright itself - meaning the artwork the NFT represents can still be shown wherever the original artist or creator chooses. Genuinely curious. What does it mean to own a widely shared digital content, if you don't have the copyright to it? What's stopping the…

> What does it mean to own a widely shared digital content, if you don't have the copyright to it? Therein lies the question. It's basically selling a digital derivative of something that gives you no rights besides owning that derivative itself. Is there anything saying that the copyright owner can't sell another NFT to a competing NFT blockchain? What if people start using different NFTs for the same digital good?

It sounds like the emperor's clothes, he's wearing the most exquisite garment as long as everyone agrees he is...

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Post by jonas21 »

ALittleLight wrote: post #17

I would describe myself, usually, as not a jealous man. I don't recollect the last time I've felt jealousy. But, something about NFTs provokes anger within me. Maybe that anger is jealously. It feels like NFTs are a mockery of the "market" for lack of a better word. When I think of what I would need to sell (items or time doing labor) to get these amounts and how incredibly useless NFTs actually are... It's frustrati…

I mean, sure, they make a mockery of the art market. But the art market seems to have had no trouble making a mockery of itself before NFTs came along.

Like, why is this worth $58 million? It's a 10-foot tall balloon animal.

https://www.doublestonesteel.com/blog/art-and-sculpture/koon...

Or why is this worth $200 million? It's something a 5-year-old would make if you gave them an unlimited amount of finger paint.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_17A

At least NFT creators tend to be honest about how ridiculous they are (see any interview with Beeple, for example), as opposed to conventional artists who like to pretend there's some sort of objective reason why their work is so highly valued.

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Post by CGamesPlay »

GuB-42 wrote: post #94
smnrchrds wrote: post #58

Are there laws to prevent owners of culturally significant artworks, e.g. van Gogh and da Vinci paitnings, from being destroyed, and from being shipped to countries that do not have regulations against them being destroyed? It seems the free market is moving in the direction of valuing destruction of art more than the art itself. In the absence of regulations, it would be a matter of time until some investor buys up…

You can't turn a real Van Gogh into a NFT. If anything the actual painting is the real life NFT to the image that is public domain on the internet. By destroying an original you own you are just burning money. And by doing that, you will also piss off pretty much everyone on the planet, and no one will want that (digital) NFT. In fact, I wouldn't want to take that shameful NFT even if you paid me for it.

Oh, I bet Martin Shkreli or a protege would buy it in a heartbeat.

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Post by ryankrage77 »

lr4444lr wrote: post #4

It is interesting in this day and age how digital rights can be transferred, but I can't say that this represents some great loss of access to a landmark cinematic achievement for mankind, or anything like that.

> digital rights can be transferred

An NFT affords no rights at all. It's equivelant to a piece of paper with a URL that points to a site that has a link the video on it. Except the link no longer works, since the video was taken down.

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