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Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by heavyset_go »

version_five wrote: post #214
zumu wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2. Less trust in you as a YC startup. What if you fail? What if you sell out? > 3. Requirement of email. > 4. Telemetry and privacy concerns raised by others. Dovetailing on these... Like why is a CLI tool VC backed? Is the business model just selling our data? Is the VC backing for another product and the CLI tool is just a PR thing?

CLI is a relatively "pristine" environment, where a lot of people's time is spent and nothing competes for our attention (or data as was pointed out). Any business model that could plausibly exploit this environment for financial gain would be an easy sell to investors. I don't know anything about this product's intentions, but it's easy to imagine the possibilities once you start getting permission to pop something…

> once you start getting permission to pop something up in someone's terminal window.

Canonical already does this.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by qshaman »

GordonS wrote: post #159
ttul wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are clearly not the ideal customer profile.. my guess is that the Fig team are going after corporate developers who won’t be as concerned about privacy so much as they are concerned about convenience and productivity.

As someone with the misfortune to work in a large enterprise, this doesn't make sense - corporate are very sensitive to data leaving their network. As just one example, the place where I work very rarely let's us use anything cloud-hosted (Slack is just one example). And when the do, it's a years long process to get it. I haven't looked into how this works, but if it's sending keystrokes or command lines to the cloud…

^this. At least at FAANG , you will get flagged by opsec using a tool like this. Also, I don't think engineers here need something like this to be productive, nor having the same email domain means they use the same tools, but maybe is just me, as other people said, there are other tools that provide autocompletion, offline and free(as in speech). But maybe if you get PG to say this product will be the future of development, people will buy into it. I truly wish the founders the best of luck.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

mschrage wrote: post #249
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #248

Is Fig patenting this? How does the company prevent itself from being f.lux’d?

Autocomplete is just our first product. We've built an API that makes it possible to add visual extensions to any terminal. We want to expand into stuff like runbooks, UIs for deployment, internal infra, etc..

I wish you the best. It’s a nice product.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by zzyzxd »

12ian34 wrote: post #80

Nice website, but I wouldn't switch to this from Fish/Zsh on account of: 1. Cannot identify any killer features above what I already have with forever free tools with much larger support communities. 2. Less trust in you as a YC startup. What if you fail? What if you sell out? 3. Requirement of email. 4. Telemetry and privacy concerns raised by others. 5. Not available for Linux, and I get the feeling that Linux woul…

> 1. Cannot identify any killer features above what I already have with forever free tools with much larger support communities.

It does have the features I want, although not enough to convince me to switch right now. cli can be painful if you are working on commands you are not familiar with. IMHO, this is a better interface than the ones in Fish/Zsh, that provides richer information regarding command choices, hence can be a huge improvement for discoverability.

Imagine that you are not familiar with AWS EC2 and want to spin up an instance to play with. If you do that via awscli, first you need to run a bunch of `--help` commands to find the correct subcommands(`aws ec2`, and then `aws ec2 run-instances`), after that, there are 40+ flags for `run-instances`, some are mandatory, some are optional. If you do that from the web console, there's a very friendly wizard with several pages breaking down by networking, storage, OS...etc, intuitive and easy to understand.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by fruityrudy »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #293

I like the design of the tool. But I don't understand why the primary target of a CLI tool would be macOS. AFAIK macOS is not really a developer friendly ecosystem and most devs are using either GNU/Linux or Windows to run their workstation...

Mac is very popular with devs.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by jitl »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #293

I like the design of the tool. But I don't understand why the primary target of a CLI tool would be macOS. AFAIK macOS is not really a developer friendly ecosystem and most devs are using either GNU/Linux or Windows to run their workstation...

All the developers I know run macOS. The major San Francisco companies are predominantly macOS for developers.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by stephc_int13 »

jitl wrote: post #298
stephc_int13 wrote: post #293

I like the design of the tool. But I don't understand why the primary target of a CLI tool would be macOS. AFAIK macOS is not really a developer friendly ecosystem and most devs are using either GNU/Linux or Windows to run their workstation...

All the developers I know run macOS. The major San Francisco companies are predominantly macOS for developers.

That explains a lot :)

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by qbasic_forever »

samblr wrote: post #178
dvt wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just adding, from their website: > Investors: We've raised several million dollars from amazing VCs like General Catalyst and Kleiner Perkins, and angels like Jason Warner, Adam Gross, Olivier Pomel, Scott Belsky, Will Gaybrick and a handful of other impressive dev tool founders and executives. The fact that a CLI tool raised millions of dollars while also being basically powered by open-source contributions is also…

I just wanted be a fly on the wall when Fig founders were pitching to these investors on how they are gonna make money. Can NOT this tool say to my employer - How many times I compile my code in a day ? When I get a compilation error - how quickly it gets to compiling state again ? Was the compilation error a trivial mistake ? How much time is spent between each commands ? How productive I am keying in command one af…

Your employer's group policy controls, management agents, etc. that control access to their internal network can (and are) already telling them all of that information. They're basically rootkits that run anything they want on computers that access their network. Usually they just distribute certs, keys, etc. or remotely wipe a lost/stolen machine, but the capability is there to do anything.
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