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Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by nerdponx »

verdverm wrote: post #119
paulgb wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> maybe more so because of the increased attacks on the software supply chain vendors I'm intrigued by this but not 100% sure I follow. Is the implication that VC-backed startups are more likely to suffer from a supply-chain attack, or just more general reluctance to incorporate any new tech into the stack as it increases the attack surface area?

Probably a little of both. I'm personally reducing this surface area with clients in light of recent attacks. Personally, something like this w.r.t. VC means that incentives will diverge and they lose touch with what it means to be a dev tool. w.r.t. supply chain, it's probably more of a correlation (related to) that they will eventually have the large companies as enterprise customers who are the real target. Also,…

Have there been any attacks that are able to exploit iTerm shell integrations or similar tooling?

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by nwienert »

I want to throw out something I had thought about while deep (deep) into fixing a broken server yesterday and having had a few thousand tabs opened over the course of 24 hours searching for every possible Linux command under the sun.

Here’s what I’d like, and it’s not really autocomplete. It’s more of a spotlight/Alfred combined with documentation and status panes.

Imagine someone frantically debugging two things: why a lot of their server is broken, and also why a disk is suddenly going slow but only sometimes, and only within docker. In fact, go ahead and just set up an Ubuntu server, run a small stack on it, plug in a slightly failing HDD, and then mount it to /var, wiping out the folder (and then only recovering part of it). Then, try and fix it using only Google.

I want a binary I can install that acts as a spotlight that lets me fix it without needing to leave the CLI. It’s not autocomplete, it needs to be much better. I could see a bin that basically pulls up a full screen search, where I can type natural language and see not just commands but specific usages. If it used data from StackOverflow that’d be great. If it also just helped debug the system health that’d be even better.

Anyway, I went on this little odyssey over the weekend and I’ve convinced myself something like this would be incredibly valuable. There’s a real cost switching to the browser and waiting for long network times. Plus history | grep + copy pasting is a lot slower than if I had a HUD with fuzzy search across historical commands + a database of all useful commands.

Of course once you add in the cost of supporting every platform it gets enormous, but then again you’d have really specific info on the platform to make it much easier to customize.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by swyx »

mschrage wrote: post #72
swyx wrote: post #52

sounds awesome, but seems very dependent on the app? for example I use hyper.is as my terminal, I've installed Fig but it doesnt seem to work? does this app only work on the default mac terminal?

We do integrate with Hyper. Does Fig work in other terminals for you? Or are you potentially on the canary build of Hyper? (You can check in ~/.hyper.js)

it works now and works in other terminals, thank you. see other response for my alarm...

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by swyx »

brendanfalk wrote: post #132
swyx wrote: post #52

sounds awesome, but seems very dependent on the app? for example I use hyper.is as my terminal, I've installed Fig but it doesnt seem to work? does this app only work on the default mac terminal?

Our server also crashed when we first posted this. Try running `fig update` in your terminal. This will download the most up to date version of Fig's completion specs

ah ok so you got hugged to death, nice.

but... why is Fig phoning home to your servers when i'm typing? what's local and what's not? this is alarming. does it go down if i am offline or have "lie-fi"?

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by avinassh »

12ian34 wrote: post #80

Nice website, but I wouldn't switch to this from Fish/Zsh on account of: 1. Cannot identify any killer features above what I already have with forever free tools with much larger support communities. 2. Less trust in you as a YC startup. What if you fail? What if you sell out? 3. Requirement of email. 4. Telemetry and privacy concerns raised by others. 5. Not available for Linux, and I get the feeling that Linux woul…

Can you suggest some tools which auto suggest like Fig and work with zsh? The built in auto complete in zsh works nicely, but how do I get the drop down of all options?

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by elteto »

avinassh wrote: post #145
12ian34 wrote: post #80

Nice website, but I wouldn't switch to this from Fish/Zsh on account of: 1. Cannot identify any killer features above what I already have with forever free tools with much larger support communities. 2. Less trust in you as a YC startup. What if you fail? What if you sell out? 3. Requirement of email. 4. Telemetry and privacy concerns raised by others. 5. Not available for Linux, and I get the feeling that Linux woul…

Can you suggest some tools which auto suggest like Fig and work with zsh? The built in auto complete in zsh works nicely, but how do I get the drop down of all options?

Maybe https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by jjwiseman »

ttul wrote: post #121
jjwiseman wrote: post #92

When it required me to enter my "work email" to "connect with teammates" before I could use it, I dragged it to the trash.

You are clearly not the ideal customer profile.. my guess is that the Fig team are going after corporate developers who won’t be as concerned about privacy so much as they are concerned about convenience and productivity.

I actually care very little about the privacy issues, and am often very willing to trade privacy for convenience. I just don't want to be bothered to have to essentially register to use the app, for no real benefit to me.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by 12ian34 »

pclark wrote: post #131
12ian34 wrote: post #80

Nice website, but I wouldn't switch to this from Fish/Zsh on account of: 1. Cannot identify any killer features above what I already have with forever free tools with much larger support communities. 2. Less trust in you as a YC startup. What if you fail? What if you sell out? 3. Requirement of email. 4. Telemetry and privacy concerns raised by others. 5. Not available for Linux, and I get the feeling that Linux woul…

#2 is really quite absurd - especially here of all places - how do you decide if a product or service will never "sell out"?

Absurd? I'm definitely more confident that Fish/Zsh will stay free forever without changing their incentives, licensing and pricing than a YC-backed startup whose primary goal is to make money.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by Closi »

ggregoire wrote: post #140
fmakunbound wrote: post #112

How do you make a company out of this?

From their jobs page [1]: "We've raised several million dollars from amazing VCs like General Catalyst and Kleiner Perkins, and angels like Jason Warner, Adam Gross, Olivier Pomel, Scott Belsky, Will Gaybrick and a handful of other impressive dev tool founders and executives." [1] https://boards.greenhouse.io/fig

I think they mean “how do you steer this into a profit” rather than “how do you get investment”.
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