Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal • Hacker News Board

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by laurent123456 » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:10 PM UTC

brendanfalk wrote: post #29

vhanda wrote: post #19

This seems really amazing. Please excuse my paranoia. Your privacy policy is very well written and easy to read. That's rare. However, Is there someway I can make Fig not send any data to anyone else? From what I understand, Fig does send telemetry information, but I'd like to be made aware of it before it asks me to give it "accessibility" powers. Also, while Fig may not send the data to anyone. Does this also cover…

Thanks! We do need to put in place a proper privacy policy. But we wanted to be transparent with how Fig uses your data (hence what we have currently). You can run `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true` to disable all telemetry except for one daily ping. You also make a good point: in our onboarding we should move our privacy information to before granting accessibility! We will make this more clear

Telemetry being on by default on something like this is going to be hard to pull off. Homebrew has telemetry but it's only for Homebrew commands. This would potentially be for every single command one type in a terminal. It just takes one little bug in the app and who knows what can be sent, maybe passwords and so on.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by swyx » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:11 PM UTC

sounds awesome, but seems very dependent on the app? for example I use hyper.is as my terminal, I've installed Fig but it doesnt seem to work? does this app only work on the default mac terminal?

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by dannyw » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:11 PM UTC

billiam wrote: post #33

Can I pay you money for this awesome product so I don't feel bad about opting out of your telemetry? What's fair? I think a lot of us would do this voluntarily. Your privacy disclosure is great--I just don't want to be the product on principle.

You shouldn't feel bad for opting out of telemetry!

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by dannyw » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:11 PM UTC

MattGaiser wrote: post #44

d--b wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They go as far as asking to validate the email with a code... That plus the fact that they do send data to their servers for some reason...

Do you consider your email to be all that private?

In the context of an app that requests accessibility access (read: everything I do on my computer, without restriction), absolutely!

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by mschrage » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

shadeslayer_ wrote: post #48

I have been using zsh-autosuggestions [1] to achieve something similar, so seeing a new product that seems infinitely easier to configure and much more powerful is very.. heartening. I might not move over right this moment, but I'll be cheering you on. PS: I read the fine print and I (and many others, I'm sure) would really, really like to pay some money for you to not send ANY telemetry data at all. Would be great i…

Thanks so much for this! We've heard the feedback on telemetry loud and clear - definitely will rework this in the future.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by vletal » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:15 PM UTC

brainfish wrote: post #36

brendanfalk wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! We do need to put in place a proper privacy policy. But we wanted to be transparent with how Fig uses your data (hence what we have currently). You can run `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true` to disable all telemetry except for one daily ping. You also make a good point: in our onboarding we should move our privacy information to before granting accessibility! We will make this more clear

I love your concept and wish to cheer you on, but this statement > You can run `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true` to disable all telemetry except for one daily ping. contains such a blatant lie (disableTelemetry does _not_ disable telemetry) that I've already lost a lot of trust, in an area I am not willing to play trust games. I hope you rethink this, soon and loudly.

So what does it do? Is it just about the daily ping?

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by tofuahdude » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:15 PM UTC

brendanfalk wrote: post #29

vhanda wrote: post #19

This seems really amazing. Please excuse my paranoia. Your privacy policy is very well written and easy to read. That's rare. However, Is there someway I can make Fig not send any data to anyone else? From what I understand, Fig does send telemetry information, but I'd like to be made aware of it before it asks me to give it "accessibility" powers. Also, while Fig may not send the data to anyone. Does this also cover…

Thanks! We do need to put in place a proper privacy policy. But we wanted to be transparent with how Fig uses your data (hence what we have currently). You can run `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true` to disable all telemetry except for one daily ping. You also make a good point: in our onboarding we should move our privacy information to before granting accessibility! We will make this more clear

Disable except for once a day is not actually disabling. That's pretty whack.

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by mschrage » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:15 PM UTC

jgrimm wrote: post #40

Just tried this at university and interestingly all fig functionality is blocked when using the university's wifi, probably due to the proxies they have in place, while hot-spotting from my phone over 4g seems to work fine. edit: after switching back to university wifi fig also worked fine, so it may be an issue with the wifi or there may be a need to refresh the network connection when trying to set everything up

Great to hear that everything is working.

We were getting rate limited by Github when downloading the newest completion specs earlier - that might have been the issue as well!

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by brendanfalk » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:16 PM UTC

brainfish wrote: post #36

brendanfalk wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! We do need to put in place a proper privacy policy. But we wanted to be transparent with how Fig uses your data (hence what we have currently). You can run `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true` to disable all telemetry except for one daily ping. You also make a good point: in our onboarding we should move our privacy information to before granting accessibility! We will make this more clear

I love your concept and wish to cheer you on, but this statement > You can run `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true` to disable all telemetry except for one daily ping. contains such a blatant lie (disableTelemetry does _not_ disable telemetry) that I've already lost a lot of trust, in an area I am not willing to play trust games. I hope you rethink this, soon and loudly.

I hear you and I agree. This is a huge oversight on our part and we will make the disableTelemetry command turn off all telemetry. This will come out in our next build

Re: Launch HN: Fig (YC S20) – Autocomplete for the Terminal

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Post by throwawayboise » Tue, May 25, 2021, 4:16 PM UTC

Judging from the other comments I'm in the minority here, but I use the command line precisely to avoid this kind of pop-up distracting stuff. I'm one of those programmers who disables intellisense, etc. as much as I can.