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Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m 99% sure it’s mostly C and C++

Fuchsia has a lot of Rust code. (Disclosure: I write Rust code for Fuchsia on a daily basis.)

CLOC says about ~1 MLOC of Rust and ~1.1 MLOC of C++ in https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+/refs/heads/main/s...

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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10 years ago I would be really excited, as I could expect some groundbreaking tech like search engine or revolutionary approach to something, like Gmail (no ads sent to users, great UI, hige disk space). Today, instead of excitement, I am wondering how this thing is going to push me in some walled garden, how I will be tracked, how my data will be fetched and sold, what will be the trick used to move people away from…

To add to the pot of cynics

I wonder how much of it is driven to supplant Linux's "viral" GPL-ness

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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This is exciting to see (in a neutral way, I'm not rooting for it) because I wonder how large fuchsia will grow and if it will contend with Linux. Why wouldn't Google want to push containers running it's brand spanking new os without 30+ years of cruft on gcp. And if it has performance/security why wouldn't developers start moving over.

It's aimed at the opposite end from GCP, aimed at things like phones, tablets, and laptops.

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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A big success for Rust in the wild

I’m 99% sure it’s mostly C and C++

There are many ways to cut metrics, but here's some line counts:

C 365017 C Header 894250 CMake 396 C++ 2025857 C++ Header 10691 Rust 3124869

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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Hmm, looks like Fuchsia still uses Dart/Flutter for the front end. My experiences have been positive (although I’m sure someone will be happy to explain how my opinion of Flutter is wrong) so I’m glad to see it.

Dart / Flutter is nice, the problems with it back in the day were mostly just the fact that it was (previously) competing with JavaScript on the front-end.

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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Around December or January I tried to get Fuchsia going in QEMU to play around a bit and maybe contribute back some code, but nothing quite worked as I expected. Based on this experience I had figured they were still years off from shipping but I'm pleasantly surprised to see that I was (obviously) wrong.

Congrats to the team and looking forward to seeing it work as intended!

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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post #2

10 years ago I would be really excited, as I could expect some groundbreaking tech like search engine or revolutionary approach to something, like Gmail (no ads sent to users, great UI, hige disk space). Today, instead of excitement, I am wondering how this thing is going to push me in some walled garden, how I will be tracked, how my data will be fetched and sold, what will be the trick used to move people away from…

Yes, now when Google's social enforcement algorithms label you an impediment, they can not only delete your YouTube video business and cut you off from your email, calendar, and Google Docs, they'll be able to turn the heat off in your house. The march of progress.

Re: Google is officially releasing Fuchsia OS, starting with a first-gen Nest Hub

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This is exciting to see (in a neutral way, I'm not rooting for it) because I wonder how large fuchsia will grow and if it will contend with Linux. Why wouldn't Google want to push containers running it's brand spanking new os without 30+ years of cruft on gcp. And if it has performance/security why wouldn't developers start moving over.

It's aimed at the opposite end from GCP, aimed at things like phones, tablets, and laptops.

fwiw, I got us booting on GCE years ago, and the scripts may still work.

https://cs.opensource.google/fuchsia/fuchsia/+/main:scripts/...

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