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Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by kaba0 »

jzzskijj wrote: post #91
bartvk wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've tried the new design (using flags in about:config) and none of my plugins broke. I'm running Facebook Container, Midnight Lizard, No Thanks, a Medium extension and uBlock Origin. Have you actually tried it yourself? If not, why post a rather shallow dismissal?

I was almost going to say something similar, because on Android there are still just 16 add-ons available and it has been a long while. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/search/?type=extens...

How is it relevant to parent being wrong?

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by ComputerGuru »

Semaphor wrote: post #66
gcommer wrote: post #12

Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

> As expected, the new tabs take up substantial vertical space I just tried it, the vertical difference is 5 pixels, horizontally it’s about twice as much with 5 pinned and 9 normal tabs. Amazing? No. But that doesn’t really seem substantial. This is with compact mode in both versions.

I don’t think testing it in compact mode is the idea.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by eknkc »

jansan wrote: post #89
pjmlp wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I use Edge Chrome, ironically gmail tells me to switch to Chrome, that is how people switched to Chrome.

Many people who I know switched to Chrome because I told them to.

I think people forget how good it was compared to both IE and FF. It was fast, responsive, clean and a major upgrade to whatever you were using.

It was not Gmail advertising that pushed people.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by pmontra »

kaba0 wrote: post #93
jchw wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is basically the problem. Similarly, IMO, using GNOME 3 adapted for phones via Phosh feels far more natural than using GNOME 3 on desktop. It really should be an indictment of the insistence that it's possible to make one single design that works well on all form factors, or even just two form factors as disparate as a tablet and a desktop PC. If it's possible, the "state of the art" isn't really selling i…

I don’t know, GNOME 3 on laptops with proper gestures is a joy to use. Also, afaik Phosh is fully rewritten and hardly has anything in common with gnome, even the common apps are inferior to use on mobile.

Does GNOME have gestures? I've been using it since 2009 and never noticed. I googled and found this https://github.com/JoseExposito/gnome-shell-extension-x11ges... plus a tentative design document from 2015.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by ComputerGuru »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #21

This was bizarre. Neither the announcement or the video really said what has changed. I’d rather they focus on performance. It’s third in the list behind Chrome and Safari on my MacBook. I use it only for Jira and Gitlab at work with about 10 tabs and it regularly consumes more CPU than Chrome with about 50 tabs open.

To be fair, Jira and Gitlab are just about the two most bloated web apps in existence.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by eppsilon »

clumsysmurf wrote: post #60
yosito wrote: post #28

Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.

I think it needs Vertical tabs at least

Sidebery is a pretty nice extension for that

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by saila »

ilmiont wrote: post #87

They say they want us to worry less. This is now making me worry about what I do next. Will it be possible to revert this madness or is it really time to abandon Firefox? I know that in the big picture it’s small, but a good part of why the Firefox is the UI. In compact mode, with dark theme, on Linux, Firefox is - for me - the ultimate browser UI that just gets out of my way. This new “modern” look is oversized, dis…

Overall, I think the new version looks better. The only thing I don't get is why they made the tabs into floating buttons with empty vertical space on both sides. On the one hand, I think it looks nicer than the current tab bar, but I don't see what UI/UX purpose it serves to change such a fundamental affordance. (Maybe someone knows?) I feel like they could modernize the tab bar while still keeping it a tab bar.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

One of my FF UI/UE headaches is consistent use of a dark theme. If you do not want to feel like a deer between the headlight whenever you open a new tab or click on a new URL at night there is still no way around userChrome.css hacks. And even then it doesn't work 100% of the time.

Hope it will finally be fixed in this release since it has been years that people are complaining.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Post by agumonkey »

I use nightly regularly and was not excited by the new aesthetics, so I would join most of the other commenters here .. but to avoid weighing on the same side of the boat, I'd rather ask what would be a top 10 priority list of features to add / fix in firefox for the HN crowd ?
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