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Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#101
I hope this is a step forward for Firefox. I hope this is not yet another redesign for a desktop app that tries to make it look like a mobile app by removing features and adding gratuitous amounts of whitespace.

Desktop is not Mobile and they should not have the same interface. Windows 8 showed us what a disaster that was, but every company since seems to have to learn this lesson themselves. (Looking at you spotify and others)

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#102

Every announcement makes me happier that I disabled auto updates several versions ago

From a UI/UX perspective, yes. From a security perspective: hell fucking no. You need those updates. Even if you're just doing plain-jane browsing, with no finance, commerce, professional, government, or personal interaction, you're putting your entire system at risk. (TailsOS users possibly excepted.)

Security fixes should be totally separate from UI and functionality chhanges. We need more software with long-term-supported stable releases.

Functionality and UI changes breed fear of updates which lessens security.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#103
I hope this is a step forward for Firefox and I expect that there will be some genuine wins in here, but I really hope this is not yet another redesign for a desktop app that tries to make it look like a mobile app by removing features and adding gratuitous amounts of whitespace. The word "streamlined" is usually the harbinger of such regressions.

Desktop is not Mobile and their interfaces should not be the same. Windows 8 showed us what a disaster that was, but every company since seems to have to learn this lesson themselves. (Looking at you spotify)

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#104

I'm pretty excited about this. In general it looks fine, but I really gotta ask - why do browsers always redesign tabs? They don't change in functionality for the most part and yet they always get refreshed. Regardless, excited to try the new design, hopefully they really have streamlined it. I personally find the firefox menu navigation a bit weird and hard to...well navigate through so that's what I'm hoping has be…

Because it makes it real obvious that something has changed. Kind of like car headlights. They’re a really prominent part of the entire design that make you want to explore more

Back in GNOME 2, epiphany was the best browser ever because the UI simply followed the GNOME UI guidelines.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#105
post #28

Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.

Is there a Godwin's law for Firefox yet?

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#106
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a UI/UX perspective, yes. From a security perspective: hell fucking no. You need those updates. Even if you're just doing plain-jane browsing, with no finance, commerce, professional, government, or personal interaction, you're putting your entire system at risk. (TailsOS users possibly excepted.)

Security fixes should be totally separate from UI and functionality chhanges. We need more software with long-term-supported stable releases. Functionality and UI changes breed fear of updates which lessens security.

In an ideal world, absolutely, I agree.

We're not there though.

And there are an number of bug categories (phishing, social engineering, etc.) which intersect on UI/UX.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#108

Every announcement makes me happier that I disabled auto updates several versions ago

From a UI/UX perspective, yes. From a security perspective: hell fucking no. You need those updates. Even if you're just doing plain-jane browsing, with no finance, commerce, professional, government, or personal interaction, you're putting your entire system at risk. (TailsOS users possibly excepted.)

Then why can't I have separate security updates? I'm fed up with some fashion people breaking my software usability all the time, just because some hot new way to arrange tabs has to be tried out.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#109
post #32

This is what they killed the rust and mdn teams for? Oooff...

No? Like there is enough surface area to work on multiple unrelated parts of Firefox at the same time.

Also, Rust team is most definitely not killed, Servo is, which frankly, made perfect sense. Developing one browser engine is hard enough as is, let alone two.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#110
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new tabs also look nothing like tabs. It’s now a button bar. It looks great, but it’s not really an inprovement and is clearly designed on a large monitor.

They will go back to the conventional tab design, I am pretty sure about this. Tabs should look like they look in Chrome, not like in Firefox or VSCode. Tab design has pretty much been settled in the 90s, no need for experiments.

It takes a lot to convince UI designers to admit they made a mistake. Just look at any redesign ever.
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