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Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#41
Users: we hate it.

Metrics: few people click this

Managers: MAKE IT BIGGER

Dear Firefox Mangers: you make it hard to want to use your product. I used to love it. I only like it now. Really the only thing you've got going right now is that you're NOT Chrome.

Get good!!

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#42
post #28

Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.

The people who are making the designs are not the same people who are fixing bugs and improve performance. If you replaced all UX designers with SWE you will gain development speed in the short term and end up with an outdated looking app after a few years.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#43
post #12

Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

Not so, it's just supervised data-driving:

Observation: The Pocket button is used very infrequently

Conclusion: To encourage more usage the Pocket button should be made larger

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#44
post #26
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disliked the new tabs at first but after a few weeks I'm totally used to them.

I still hate the new tabs after having used the Developer Edition for a while. There's absolutely no separators between tabs, making it hard to see tab boundaries. Having the tabs on a separate background colour also helps to quickly see which part of the chrome is the tab bar and which is the address bar. Now they're the same colour. FWIW, Chrome has separators between tabs as well as better contrast between the add…

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Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#45

All I heard was "We're going to break your plugins again, because reasons".

I've tried the new design (using flags in about:config) and none of my plugins broke. I'm running Facebook Container, Midnight Lizard, No Thanks, a Medium extension and uBlock Origin.

Have you actually tried it yourself? If not, why post a rather shallow dismissal?

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#47
post #12

Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

I don't understand the hate or why this seems to take so much headspace in so many (or at least here very vocal) minds. It's a single button, not flashy or animated or otherwise annoying. When the rest of the world spies on you or pushes crypto tokens and abuses websites by replacing their ads with own advertisements, that is what bothers you most and makes you consciously choose an outdated version?

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#48
post #12

Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

Only 10% of users are using compact mode: Time to remove it.

Only 1% of users are using Pocket: Make it more prominent to increase usage.

Data-driven design!

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#50

The UI heatmap shows that nobody clicks Pocket, but the video highlights that pocket is "refreshed" and is part of the new design. Dear Firefox, that's not how things work.

No, that's exactly how UX research works:

- Users are using X feature a lot. 1) the researcher likes the feature: let's invest time into improving it. Or 2) the researcher dislikes the feature: we need to remove it because it's adding too much friction

- Users are not using feature X a lot. 1) the researcher likes the feature: users aren't discovering this feature, we need to make it more prominent. 2) the researcher dislikes the feature: no-one is using this old, outdated feature, we need to remove it.

(I'm still upset that they removed FTP and RSS support.)

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