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Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#21
This was bizarre. Neither the announcement or the video really said what has changed.

I’d rather they focus on performance. It’s third in the list behind Chrome and Safari on my MacBook. I use it only for Jira and Gitlab at work with about 10 tabs and it regularly consumes more CPU than Chrome with about 50 tabs open.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

Consider yourself lucky there isn't a giant banner ad for Mr Robot in the title bar. Mozilla's CEO really needs another pay rise for overseeing plummeting product market share.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#25

Ah yes, we have no money so let's invest a ton of work into something that will do nothing to bring in new or lost users, but, given our track record, has the potential to alienate even more of our ever fewer remaining users.

> Ah yes, we have no money so let's invest a ton of work into something that will do nothing to bring in new or lost users,

In theory Mozilla Firefox is a open-source project and it doesn't need users directly, as much as it needs contributors to help keep the project alive. Deciding if this counts as contributing or not, is an exercise I leave for others ;)

That said, I agree with the criticism that this video (which is supposed to highlight a/the new design) is failing spectacularly at showcasing that very design.

I think I saw one screenshot zap by which showed tabs looking somewhat differently? Otherwise it was just lots of people talking and close-ups of portions of Firefox which already looks the same way? Not very informative.

To highlight the design I would appreciate something slower (less zaps!) and less polished where they would just use the browser and let the design speak for itself.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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I wasn't a huge fan of most of the UI refreshes lately in both Chrome and Firefox, but this is definitely the least welcome so far. I do not really expect these tabs to grow on me. (Also, it obviously looks fine, but I really dislike the new trend of adding a bunch of empty space for no real reason other than aesthetics. The first thing I do in Firefox right now is remove the spacers next to the address bar...)

I disliked the new tabs at first but after a few weeks I'm totally used to them.

I still hate the new tabs after having used the Developer Edition for a while. There's absolutely no separators between tabs, making it hard to see tab boundaries. Having the tabs on a separate background colour also helps to quickly see which part of the chrome is the tab bar and which is the address bar. Now they're the same colour.

FWIW, Chrome has separators between tabs as well as better contrast between the address bar section and the tab section (1.31:1 for Chrome, 1.08:1 for Firefox).

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#27

I'm pretty excited about this. In general it looks fine, but I really gotta ask - why do browsers always redesign tabs? They don't change in functionality for the most part and yet they always get refreshed. Regardless, excited to try the new design, hopefully they really have streamlined it. I personally find the firefox menu navigation a bit weird and hard to...well navigate through so that's what I'm hoping has be…

Because it makes it real obvious that something has changed. Kind of like car headlights. They’re a really prominent part of the entire design that make you want to explore more

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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post #18

Ah yes, we have no money so let's invest a ton of work into something that will do nothing to bring in new or lost users, but, given our track record, has the potential to alienate even more of our ever fewer remaining users.

Back in the early days of Chrome, I definitely feel that a lot of people switched and continued using it because it looked and felt better.

Maybe it looked better, but I think it felt better because it was much faster.

This is a marketing push disguised as an aesthetic change. Mozilla, please stop trying to make Pocket happen, it's not going to happen.

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