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Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by scruple »

tayo42 wrote: post #18
imgabe wrote: post #6

I'm sure it's skewed because of the Internet, but between Twitter and Hacker News it sounds like San Francisco is basically Somalia now.

People love to hate San Francisco. Even before this current news cycle of pretty crime there were constant negative articles about sf.

I decided to stop going there back in 2015. It was embarrassing to bring a friend from Argentina to the city and have her regard it in the same light as the worst parts of Buenos Aires (that she had seen, anyway). It doesn't sound to me like things have improved...

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by throwaway1959 »

edrxty wrote: post #37
throwaway1959 wrote: post #7

I do not think that the current crime situation in San Francisco appeared by some fluke or an accident. Specific policies were put in place by the progressive government officials and progressive people in San Francisco voted for these policies. I think is a cautionary tale for the rest of the country on what happens when progressive utopia gets voted in.

"Progressive Bad" isn't really the takeaway here. It turns out nuance is important. Questionable policies combined with a complex socioeconomic situation due to decades of perverse incentives isn't, in fact, an optimal strategy of governance.

I think it's hard to argue that the SF government is not comprised of people on the forefront of the progressive agenda. Am I wrong about this? Take a look at Chesa Boudin, for example [1]. All their policies are progressive (their voters would certainly hope so). Are you saying that San Francisco's progressive policies are not the right progressive policies? Which place has the right policies then? Chicago? Their crime rate does not seem much better. Or Chicago also implements wrong progressive ideas?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by Cookingboy »

yupper32 wrote: post #53
84fryb75 wrote: post #9

In early 2020, before lockdown, I visited San Francisco as a tourist with my wife. We took a wrong turn at a book store and wound up on a street covered in feces. The next street was fine. Then on the next, we watched a homeless woman shoot up on the street. Then a supercar pulled into a garage. I'm not the best traveled, I'll admit, so I can't compare SF to foreign cities. I'm a simple hillbilly from the Southeast,…

> This was my third time in SF. > Also, I've always refused to move to Silicon Valley > The author is in denial. > it is a really expensive shithole I'm always amazed by people who have visited a place a few times as a tourist and think "I'm qualified to shit on people who choose to live here". What makes you think you have any say in the situation? SF has massive neighborhood diversity as far as living situations go…

>What makes you think you have any say in the situation?

He doesn't have a say, but that doesn't mean he can't have valid opinions as an outsider with a more unbiased perspective.

To be clear I've lived in SF Bay Area for 10+ years and I've also traveled extensively/lived in other world class cities.

SF really is a more expensive shithole. It doesn't mean there aren't any charms but anyone who doesn't acknowledge SF's shortfalls vs. other top cities is in complete denial.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by kenneth »

Cookingboy wrote: post #66
imgabe wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like a group of 10 concerned citizens could get together and steal $9000 per day from Chesa Boudin until he realizes this is a bad policy.

Oh he absolutely knows it's bad policy, however he also knows it wins votes from people in San Francisco. The problem is a large numbers of voters in SF don't realize it's bad policy, and maybe a bigger problem would be why are district attorneys elected positions in the first place?

Even if they weren't, people would elect a Mayor on a progressive no-prosecuting-crime platform who'd then hire an awful DA…

The problem isn't with the position of DA, it's with "progressive" voters.

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Post by bushbaba »

Cookingboy wrote: post #66
imgabe wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like a group of 10 concerned citizens could get together and steal $9000 per day from Chesa Boudin until he realizes this is a bad policy.

Oh he absolutely knows it's bad policy, however he also knows it wins votes from people in San Francisco. The problem is a large numbers of voters in SF don't realize it's bad policy, and maybe a bigger problem would be why are district attorneys elected positions in the first place?

I think there’s a lot of Californians voting in bad policy to curtail gentrification.

I’ve seen the logic used by many in SF.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by pvg »

olivermarks wrote: post #30

SF District Attorney Chesa Boudin ran for office in November 2019 focusing his campaign on ending mass incarceration with restorative justice models, rather than punitive incarceral methods. Since then crime in SF has absolutely exploded, fuelled by proposition 47 which reduced stealing less than $900 day to a misdemeanor. Add in a massive opioid crisis and the result is a rapidly growing crisis of shoplifting, petty…

half US homeless are in California with migrants arriving daily

crime in SF has absolutely exploded

These don't seem to be reflected in easily googleable stats

https://www.usich.gov/tools-for-action/map/#fn[]=1400&fn[]=2...

https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crim...

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by kardianos »

yupper32 wrote: post #53
84fryb75 wrote: post #9

In early 2020, before lockdown, I visited San Francisco as a tourist with my wife. We took a wrong turn at a book store and wound up on a street covered in feces. The next street was fine. Then on the next, we watched a homeless woman shoot up on the street. Then a supercar pulled into a garage. I'm not the best traveled, I'll admit, so I can't compare SF to foreign cities. I'm a simple hillbilly from the Southeast,…

> This was my third time in SF. > Also, I've always refused to move to Silicon Valley > The author is in denial. > it is a really expensive shithole I'm always amazed by people who have visited a place a few times as a tourist and think "I'm qualified to shit on people who choose to live here". What makes you think you have any say in the situation? SF has massive neighborhood diversity as far as living situations go…

Because we walk around our own cities for YEARS and see less of this then we do on a random walk on a single day.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by dheera »

olivermarks wrote: post #30

SF District Attorney Chesa Boudin ran for office in November 2019 focusing his campaign on ending mass incarceration with restorative justice models, rather than punitive incarceral methods. Since then crime in SF has absolutely exploded, fuelled by proposition 47 which reduced stealing less than $900 day to a misdemeanor. Add in a massive opioid crisis and the result is a rapidly growing crisis of shoplifting, petty…

I've always thought that an honestly useful product would be some kind of theft deterrent device that you either attach to your car, or attach to your camera equipment, and it detects the car window getting smashed or the tripod getting moved out of range of a beacon in the owner's pocket.

If triggered it should spray a combination of fart spray, glitter, pepper spray, honey, flour, feathers, ink, in all directions. [EDIT: let's take out the pepper spray, see comments]

As a bonus it would also be useful against towing people who try to tow without contacting the owner, but the primary use case would be thieves.

I've seen so many companies making dash cams and things of the like, but considering SF does nothing even given evidence, it's time to actually spray the perpetrator with something nasty and embarrassing.

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Post by ryandrake »

Ansil849 wrote: post #19

Was the equipment not insured? This is the underlying point of theft coverage: the realization that even if police investigate a case, they will likely be unable to get the stolen items back.

This is what I always ask in these threads. Most homeowners and car insurance policies cover losses from theft in your home or car, minus maybe a deductible. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing insurance is for?

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Post by wearywanderer »

yupper32 wrote: post #53
84fryb75 wrote: post #9

In early 2020, before lockdown, I visited San Francisco as a tourist with my wife. We took a wrong turn at a book store and wound up on a street covered in feces. The next street was fine. Then on the next, we watched a homeless woman shoot up on the street. Then a supercar pulled into a garage. I'm not the best traveled, I'll admit, so I can't compare SF to foreign cities. I'm a simple hillbilly from the Southeast,…

> This was my third time in SF. > Also, I've always refused to move to Silicon Valley > The author is in denial. > it is a really expensive shithole I'm always amazed by people who have visited a place a few times as a tourist and think "I'm qualified to shit on people who choose to live here". What makes you think you have any say in the situation? SF has massive neighborhood diversity as far as living situations go…

> I'm always amazed by people who have visited a place a few times as a tourist and think "I'm qualified to shit on people who choose to live here".

I'm amazed by the number of people who live in San Francisco and think "I'm qualified to shit on this sidewalk".

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