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I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#31
SF is a weird city crime wise, lots of property crime and theft. Occasional shootings but nothing like a rust belt war zone city.

San Francisco’s crime is mostly inconvenient for rich people, that’s why it’s in the news.

St. Louis is the 13th most dangerous city in the world but you won’t hear about it.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-mo...

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#32
>My story originally happened to run on the same day the New York Times did a piece on the growing problem of shoplifting in the city and the reluctance of local law enforcement to police minor thefts. Clearly, this is a trend that will not play well politically and will result in changes sooner rather than later.

I found this naive optimism almost hilarious. SF is in no way about to magically get better once voters finally wake up to how terrible their choices have been over the previous decades. The city's disintegration was a long time in the making and is beyond fixable.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#33
post #27

There are a lot of homeless and SF is indeed in shit hole in a lot of areas, but I don't understand people who say they wouldn't visit because it's not safe or whatever. Looking at crime rate rankings [0], SF is pretty low compared to other US cities both in terms or violant crimes and property crimes. What am I missing? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

You're missing that the data in that page is from 2017, and Chesa Boudin didn't become DA until 2020.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#34

> The police officer said he was glad to have the license plate number but that robbery is so low-profile in the courts right now that even if they did catch him, without video proof, the thieves would be let go within a day or so. Even with video proof, there's a good chance that Chesa would drop all charges anyway. Related topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27216343

At this point, Chesa Boudin might as well give the thieves a pat on the back and congratulate them for their enterprising spirit.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#35
post #5

https://recallchesaboudin.org/

What's the point? His policies are what the local population were asking or even begging for. Even if the recall is successful, you will just get you a carbon copy. He is not using his position of power to abuse a powerless electorate, so why not let the local experiment go on?

Even if you are against it, you should still want that experiment to continue right? Otherwise you would get people claiming that x policy wasn't actually tried for real and that y opposition made it fail before it could bear fruits. NYC went bankrupt right before it came back and reached one of it's peaks. And maybe hitting the bottom of the barrel was what it needed.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#36

Yes, that seems to be how it is in SF. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arss9V3A1VA Is it possible that, despite good intentions, the policies being implemented there actually have very harmful effects?

These harmful effects are intended. That is the strategy. Its important to understand why. Your life depends on it.

I'll bite. Can you please expand on what you mean by this?

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#37

I do not think that the current crime situation in San Francisco appeared by some fluke or an accident. Specific policies were put in place by the progressive government officials and progressive people in San Francisco voted for these policies. I think is a cautionary tale for the rest of the country on what happens when progressive utopia gets voted in.

"Progressive Bad" isn't really the takeaway here. It turns out nuance is important. Questionable policies combined with a complex socioeconomic situation due to decades of perverse incentives isn't, in fact, an optimal strategy of governance.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#38
Some Maps and statistics to confirm or refute one’s perception about San Francisco:

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime

https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crim...

https://www.crimemapping.com/map/ca/sanfrancisco

I should add that I am not a US citizen nor I live in the US. I live in a 10 million inhabitants south American capital, where Tv reports on crimes of all sorts committed every day. I, however, have not been robbed in the last twenty five years. Sometimes personal experiences do not reflect geography and statistics.

Edit: comment line.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

#39
post #6

I'm sure it's skewed because of the Internet, but between Twitter and Hacker News it sounds like San Francisco is basically Somalia now.

I’m not taking offense wt your statement, but do want to say: You are being unkind to Somalia. I’m serious. The perception of Somalia is skewed heavily by western news for the simple reason that the Somali people rebuffed the attempted invasion by US & UK proxy forces. (Guessing you most Americans don’t know that even happened.) Somaliland isn't somewhere I would want to live, but I would pick it over the Bay Area. W…

Fair enough. I don't actually know that much about Somalia other than the (probably outdated) impression that it's a place that literally has no government.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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post #15

I do not think that the current crime situation in San Francisco appeared by some fluke or an accident. Specific policies were put in place by the progressive government officials and progressive people in San Francisco voted for these policies. I think is a cautionary tale for the rest of the country on what happens when progressive utopia gets voted in.

Which policies?

Policies of not prosecuting criminals.
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