I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled • Hacker News Board

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by cyphertruck » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #6

I'm sure it's skewed because of the Internet, but between Twitter and Hacker News it sounds like San Francisco is basically Somalia now.

I’m not taking offense wt your statement, but do want to say: You are being unkind to Somalia. I’m serious.

The perception of Somalia is skewed heavily by western news for the simple reason that the Somali people rebuffed the attempted invasion by US & UK proxy forces. (Guessing you most Americans don’t know that even happened.)

Somaliland isn't somewhere I would want to live, but I would pick it over the Bay Area. With an arrangement with the tribal elders, one would be safe, and property crimes like this would be dealt with by a judge. Unlike in SF.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by smsm42 » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #11

fortran77 wrote: post #4

My CA home, in Sunnyvale, is about 40 miles south of SF. I never go up to SF anymore, and I won't take meetings there. People who visit from out of town ask to go up to the city, and I won't take them. My life and personal safety is more important. I admire Jefferson (the man whose camera was stolen) for being so gracious about it. But he shouldn't blame himself.

This is nonsensical. San Francisco's crime problem doesn't extend to the peninsula.

It mostly does not. San Jose still has deep trouble with homeless camps, that is getting worse (and more widespread) year by year, so I imagine crime will get worse - thought not as bad as in SF, most Valley municipalities aren't as insane as the shining beacon of insanity in San Francisco, neither their inhabitants would likely tolerate these levels of craziness for long.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by cosmicexplorer » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:01 AM UTC

I hope everyone in this thread talking about feeling unsafe understands they can leave San Francisco. Lived in the Tenderloin for almost 4 years now and this type of discussion always fills my throat with bile. Haven’t posted on HN for a long time but wanted to emphasize how little I think of this rhetoric. “Progressive policies”? Use your words.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by barnaclejive » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:01 AM UTC

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Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by imgabe » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

cyphertruck wrote: post #10

premium-komodo wrote: post #3

Yes, that seems to be how it is in SF. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arss9V3A1VA Is it possible that, despite good intentions, the policies being implemented there actually have very harmful effects?

These harmful effects are intended. That is the strategy. Its important to understand why. Your life depends on it.

Why? I mean, you can't tell people their life depends on knowing something and then not tell them.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by throwaway_dcnt » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

phsau wrote: post #15

throwaway1959 wrote: post #7

I do not think that the current crime situation in San Francisco appeared by some fluke or an accident. Specific policies were put in place by the progressive government officials and progressive people in San Francisco voted for these policies. I think is a cautionary tale for the rest of the country on what happens when progressive utopia gets voted in.

Which policies?

decarceration, even for repeat violent criminals and no penalties for property crime.

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by jypepin » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

There are a lot of homeless and SF is indeed in shit hole in a lot of areas, but I don't understand people who say they wouldn't visit because it's not safe or whatever.

Looking at crime rate rankings [0], SF is pretty low compared to other US cities both in terms or violant crimes and property crimes. What am I missing?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by smsm42 » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

dmagee wrote: post #5

https://recallchesaboudin.org/

They just elected him a year ago. He didn't change since then. He promised to do exactly what he did - release criminals from jails to the streets, reduce policing and de-emphasize small crime enforcement. This is exactly what is happening now. Why would anybody want to recall him for doing exactly what they elected him to do?

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by tayo42 » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:04 AM UTC

84fryb75 wrote: post #9

In early 2020, before lockdown, I visited San Francisco as a tourist with my wife. We took a wrong turn at a book store and wound up on a street covered in feces. The next street was fine. Then on the next, we watched a homeless woman shoot up on the street. Then a supercar pulled into a garage. I'm not the best traveled, I'll admit, so I can't compare SF to foreign cities. I'm a simple hillbilly from the Southeast,…

SF's areas of poverty are mixed in with the highly visited areas and aren't really getting gentrified. Its easy to make a wrong turn. When you lived in NY did you go north of 110th st or further east then williamsburg?

Re: I Was Robbed in San Francisco While the Cameras Rolled

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Post by olivermarks » Tue, May 25, 2021, 5:04 AM UTC

SF District Attorney Chesa Boudin ran for office in November 2019 focusing his campaign on ending mass incarceration with restorative justice models, rather than punitive incarceral methods.

Since then crime in SF has absolutely exploded, fuelled by proposition 47 which reduced stealing less than $900 day to a misdemeanor. Add in a massive opioid crisis and the result is a rapidly growing crisis of shoplifting, petty theft, home invasions, carjacking and general armed thuggery.

The rapidly growing homeless population ( half US homeless are in California with migrants arriving daily) makes the situation worse with drug dealers preying on the vulnerable. I lived in San Francisco for close to 25 years and am now 50 miles north. I'll be in the city tomorrow. I have never seen it this bad, or seen so many predators watching and waiting to strike.

It's still a beautiful place, but you really need to keep your wits about you and stay aware at all times.