Microsoft has turned the Surface Duo into a handheld Xbox

Post by bartread » Mon, May 24, 2021, 9:19 PM UTC

minimaul wrote: post #91

bartread wrote: post #76

No, no, no, no, no, no, NO! Touch controls for most games suck (I've tried). Replicating somebody's Xbox controller on the second screen sucks . It's unendingly annoying when you die over and over in a game because your thumb or finger wasn't in quite the right place to fire or move in a particular direction. Not to mention, the Duo is ####ing expensive: top-end iPhone kind of money for the unlocked variant. If you r…

100% yes. Touch controls suck for gaming because your fingers drift. There's no physical feedback that your fingers are on top of the button and ready to press. It sucks, and I really really hope that this doesn't catch on.

Post by swiley » Mon, May 24, 2021, 9:31 PM UTC

com2kid wrote: post #48

neogodless wrote: post #45

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It's still a great mystery to me why it seemed like the swipe keyboard (Word Flow[0]) on Windows Phone was so, so good, and yet even SwiftKey which is owned by Microsoft doesn't measure up (but SwiftKey co-existed with Word Flow...) At this point, some seven years since I've used Windows Phone, maybe my memory isn't that accurate, but I remember the transition to using Android keyboards to be very painful. It's inter…

> It's still a great mystery to me why it seemed like the swipe keyboard (Word Flow[0]) on Windows Phone was so, so good, and yet even SwiftKey which is owned by Microsoft doesn't measure up I worked with the guy who lead the swipe keyboard on Windows Phone. Amazing machine learning engineer who lead an amazing team. Some of the work he did for my team was out of this world (ML models to do predictive touch inputs to…

Post by some-guy » Mon, May 24, 2021, 9:51 PM UTC

muskmelon_91 wrote: post #102

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I have high-speed node-to-node wireless internet in the Bay Area (~700mbps symmetrical) and cloud gaming is terrible on it, mainly due to jitter and small amounts of packet loss. Assuming the infrastructure over time can support it, I see cloud gaming succeeding, but it only works well if the circumstances are perfect.

@some-guy Is your experience for xcloud or all the cloud gaming platforms in general?

Post by myhf » Mon, May 24, 2021, 10:08 PM UTC

LegitShady wrote: post #68

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For most people and use cases, I agree. If you get it as a combo tablet/gaming/tiny laptop, it's not a bad price. The OS allows you to do all those things, and the screen is acceptable for some of them. But personally, yeah, I want a 15"+ screen for laptop usage, and I don't really have interest in a tablet, so there's not enough value here for the money.

>If you get it as a combo tablet/gaming/tiny laptop, it's not a bad price. It's an integrated graphics Ryzen 4500U machine - it's not a gaming device and shouldn't be called that. It doesn't have a keyboard, so it's not a laptop. It's at best a ryzen 5 4500U powered tablet with integrated gaming controls. You can buy a $500-600 dell laptop and a $50 xbox controller and get the keyboard too. I'm happy they found 2500…

Post by asdff » Mon, May 24, 2021, 10:12 PM UTC

wklauss wrote: post #62

Xbox Cloud Gaming, unfortunately, it's far from ideal. For several games, lag kills the experience. And I'm not talking fast paced FPS. Even platformers can feel weird or unplayable when you add latency.