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> searched two offices of Twitter .... to seek more information about Twitter’s rationale to label one of the tweets What were they expecting in a physical raid ? > An hour into the search process ... vacated both of Twitter’s offices because they were closed and there were no Twitter employees to engage with Again, what were they expecting ?
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I read through it and it says part of the document has been admitted to be true. > You can then question the fact-checking organization, and eventually nobody can say anything. If I am a citizen of the said country, is a private fact checking organisation answerable to me? I am not saying they are lying, but what are the checks and balances on them. > Should government be the arbiter of truth? About it's own politica…
> I read through it and it says part of the document has been admitted to be true. I don't understand: You asked whether Twitter had any basis for marking it false. I said the basis was (at least in part) a major fact-checking organization. I'm not sure how the above is a response to that. Also, can you provide some basis to your claim? Every lie is partly true; someone who says things that are 'partly true' is a lia…
Yes, and in this case. It would have gone something like this, the side which thinks it has been wrongly represented files a libel lawsuit and then facts are checked and the case is argued in a transparent manner.
What happened right now was action by a black box on commentary from another black box. We know before wars, stories have been carried by private companies("news" organisations) to set the narrative. They turned out to be false but did they ever answer for them? No.
> It is governemnt of the people, by the people, for the people.
But is this by people? I can choose to not believe in it but do you disagree the vast amount of influence these platforms hold and how they can set the tone of the discourse.
Wasn't this the exact alleged issue in 2016 elections? FB's targeting was used to selectively set narrative.
Are we fine with unchecked use of these all mighty tools?
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In general, Indians living abroad are highly supportive of the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Not his party, or his government, or his policies ... just him personally. Hacker News contains many such people. They are responsible for the bizarre comments you've read on this thread. On a related note, this thread will soon be flagged, like all threads that are even mildly, indirectly critical of Narendra Modi. En…
Anyone having a different opinion than me is wrong ?
The current Indian Prime Minister is very popular among Bay Area Indians and techies and so they will defend him nearly always.
The ruling party released a fake document, suggesting that the opposition is engaging in subversive activities. It was fact checked by various independent agencies and found to be a fake document. Twitter added a "manipulated media" label to those tweets. Delhi police, which is directly controlled by the Indian government raided the office of Twitter. It is not done with the intention of finding anything. It is to ha…
What is up with the comments in this thread? How are people seeing this as the Indian government taking a stand against censorship or whatever? The same government is upset that Twitter reinstated several accounts critical of the administration.
I'll preface this by stating that me and my family, and the huge number of like-minded people I am aligned with, have -- for generations -- been the most law-abiding, compliant, quiet, respectful and hard-working people in our communities. What I am about to write is absolutely without precedent, and should therefore be terrifying... The Quislings in the spineless political class in the United States and Canada have…
Could it be that people legitimately disagree with you, without being quislings or whatever? I think what has changed is the deligitimization of differing opinions and the dehumanization of people who hold them. That has become normalized - ok, even encouraged behavior - for a certain political grouping, which is indeed deadly to a democracy, where the foundation is respecting each other's opinions - i.e., we each ge…
Governments using "private" businesses to distort public debate has a long and horrific history (see every major mass-death totalitarian regime; Mao, Hitler, Stalin, ...). So, I am very worried about all media agreeing in lock-step with government! (eg. All global government, media, education, judicial and medical authorities in total agreement with global mass deployment of experimental medical treatments, for example, and sinking/de-platforming all dissent...)
I will lay down my life to ensure you have the right to publicly display your opinion -- especially if I find it ridiculous, or even repulsive. Unfortunately, I suspect you might not agree with likewise protecting mine. And that is very unfortunate, and (I believe), ultimately self-destructive.
Look at this debate. We're debating. HN is one of the few platforms where this is even possible anymore -- and only because it's sort of back-water and nerdy. Nobody, essentially, reads it (among the world of "normals"). And if they did, it would probably fall to a combination of "Endless September" and political pressure.
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> people of certain political leanings have seen multiple stories "fact-checked" by Facebook/Twitter/Google as false and suppressed turn out to be true or partially true months down the line. Nothing is perfect, but what are you referring to specifically?
Not done by a tech company, but here's an example of dubious fact checking: @MSNBC Oct 9, 2016 FACT CHECK: Trump says Clinton "acid washed" her email server. She did not. The Claim Trump says Clinton 'acid washed' her email server. The Truth Clinton's team used an app called BleachBit; she did not use a corrosive chemical. [0] https://twitter.com/msnbc/status/785299708730339328?lang=en
[0] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/10/donald-trump-see...
Edit: If you downvoted me, please explain why. I don't get it unless you care more about being on the right side than knowing the truth.
Per the article, the police visited the office to deliver a legal notice, not to investigate the office. In the United States legal notice MUST be delivered in person. It cannot be done over mail or email. I'd expect India is similar.
I'll preface this by stating that me and my family, and the huge number of like-minded people I am aligned with, have -- for generations -- been the most law-abiding, compliant, quiet, respectful and hard-working people in our communities. What I am about to write is absolutely without precedent, and should therefore be terrifying... The Quislings in the spineless political class in the United States and Canada have…
Are you confusing Facebook, Google and Twitter for the government? Otherwise I can’t understand how you conclude that free speech rights are being violated.
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Early in 2020 alternative media discussions that COVID may have leaked from a lab were ruthlessly "fack-checked" and censored from social media for misinformation. Now that we know more these claims have become accepted as a very real possibility.
Were they censored? IIRC they were only labeled as "not fact checked" - which at the time was true. It seems lots of emerging stories should carry that label.
As politi-facts put it:
"There is no evidence that the coronavirus was made in a lab. The overwhelming consensus among public health experts is that the virus evolved naturally."
In related news Russia plans to force tech giants to open offices on its soil specifically to raid them: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/05/21/russia-moves-to-fo...
The next move: “We don’t do any real work here, but you’re getting hazard pay for a reason.”