> searched two offices of Twitter .... to seek more information about Twitter’s rationale to label one of the tweets What were they expecting in a physical raid ? > An hour into the search process ... vacated both of Twitter’s offices because they were closed and there were no Twitter employees to engage with Again, what were they expecting ?
Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
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Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#22The ruling party released a fake document, suggesting that the opposition is engaging in subversive activities. It was fact checked by various independent agencies and found to be a fake document. Twitter added a "manipulated media" label to those tweets. Delhi police, which is directly controlled by the Indian government raided the office of Twitter. It is not done with the intention of finding anything. It is to ha…
I have followed this building up on Twitter and as someone not intimately familiar with this.
> The ruling party released a fake document
It very well might be(not that I know about this), but how did Twitter figure this out? As far as I understand, there has been accusations from both sides without proof.
I will be really scared if Twitter is taking a stand based on their judgement of what might have happened.
Already, censorship and control by social media platforms is on a slippery slope. We can't let them become the arbiters of truth. It might suit one side today but might not suit the same tomorrow when decision comes from a black box.
Also, yes these platforms are private spaces but they hold too much power in shaping the public discourse.
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#23The ruling party released a fake document, suggesting that the opposition is engaging in subversive activities. It was fact checked by various independent agencies and found to be a fake document. Twitter added a "manipulated media" label to those tweets. Delhi police, which is directly controlled by the Indian government raided the office of Twitter. It is not done with the intention of finding anything. It is to ha…
Maybe Twitter shouldn't get in the middle of these types of things.
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Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#24I'll preface this by stating that me and my family, and the huge number of like-minded people I am aligned with, have -- for generations -- been the most law-abiding, compliant, quiet, respectful and hard-working people in our communities. What I am about to write is absolutely without precedent, and should therefore be terrifying... The Quislings in the spineless political class in the United States and Canada have…
Could it be that people legitimately disagree with you, without being quislings or whatever? I think what has changed is the deligitimization of differing opinions and the dehumanization of people who hold them. That has become normalized - ok, even encouraged behavior - for a certain political grouping, which is indeed deadly to a democracy, where the foundation is respecting each other's opinions - i.e., we each get an equal vote. If you don't embrace that, then that is what has changed.
Part of freedom is that others are free to do things you don't like and I don't like, including Facebook, Google, and Twitter. The owner of a business can forbid discussion of a topic, such as sports, and kick out or fire anyone who doesn't comply. Heck, they can kick out or fire people for (almost) any reason or without a reason at all. It's their business; they are free.
Free speech is a restriction on the government's actions, not on a business's: Government is limited in restricting speech and similarly it is limited in restricting the behavior of private businesses (though not as limited as when restricting speech).
Private organizations also have good reasons, IMHO, to restrict speech. If you were at a restaurant and insulting people at neighboring tables, the restaurant would be right to kick you out. If you were at a political discussion club and insisted on repeating disinformation, they would be right to kick you out. You would be hurting the experience and value for other members. But private organizations also restrict speech in ways I object to.
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#25The ruling party released a fake document, suggesting that the opposition is engaging in subversive activities. It was fact checked by various independent agencies and found to be a fake document. Twitter added a "manipulated media" label to those tweets. Delhi police, which is directly controlled by the Indian government raided the office of Twitter. It is not done with the intention of finding anything. It is to ha…
Maybe Twitter shouldn't get in the middle of these types of things.
Catch-22. When they don’t they’re attacked for harbouring, and allowing the algorithmic spread of, fake news.
Besides, sites like Facebook and Twitter started to “get in the middle of these things” the moment they stopped simply showing you a chronological series of posts from people/pages you follow; to a weighted interest system, based on opaque algorithms.
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#26Highly misleading title, this was not a raid, they issued a notice as they were putting "manipulated media" tags on well known politicians, it was seen as Twitter directly attempting to shut down democracy in India
How many police are required to deliver a letter? Why not mail it or email it? How about using attorneys?
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#27The ruling party released a fake document, suggesting that the opposition is engaging in subversive activities. It was fact checked by various independent agencies and found to be a fake document. Twitter added a "manipulated media" label to those tweets. Delhi police, which is directly controlled by the Indian government raided the office of Twitter. It is not done with the intention of finding anything. It is to ha…
What is up with the comments in this thread? How are people seeing this as the Indian government taking a stand against censorship or whatever? The same government is upset that Twitter reinstated several accounts critical of the administration.
My guess is that people of certain political leanings have seen multiple stories "fact-checked" by Facebook/Twitter/Google as false and suppressed turn out to be true or partially true months down the line. These people are relieved to see another government, any government, give twitter/facebook/google "what's coming to it"
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#28Delhi Police served a legal notice to Twitter India, it was not a raid https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/toolkit...
> Delhi Police, controlled by India’s central government, on Monday evening searched two offices of Twitter — in the national capital state of Delhi and Gurgaon, in neighboring state of Haryana — to seek more information about Twitter’s rationale to label one of the tweets by ruling partly BJP spokesperson as “manipulated media.” > An hour into the search process, Delhi Police Special Cell team, which investigates te…
They were searching for a representative to serve the notice to.
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#29The ruling party released a fake document, suggesting that the opposition is engaging in subversive activities. It was fact checked by various independent agencies and found to be a fake document. Twitter added a "manipulated media" label to those tweets. Delhi police, which is directly controlled by the Indian government raided the office of Twitter. It is not done with the intention of finding anything. It is to ha…
I have followed this building up on Twitter and as someone not intimately familiar with this. > The ruling party released a fake document It very well might be(not that I know about this), but how did Twitter figure this out? As far as I understand, there has been accusations from both sides without proof. I will be really scared if Twitter is taking a stand based on their judgement of what might have happened. Alrea…
>> The ruling party released a fake document
> It very well might be(not that I know about this), but how did Twitter figure this out? As far as I understand, there has been accusations from both sides without proof.
The article answers your question: A prominent fact-checking organization examined the document. You can then question the fact-checking organization, and eventually nobody can say anything.
Should government be the arbiter of truth? About it's own political candidates?
Re: Police in India visited Twitter offices over ‘manipulated media’ label
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is up with the comments in this thread? How are people seeing this as the Indian government taking a stand against censorship or whatever? The same government is upset that Twitter reinstated several accounts critical of the administration.
My guess is that people of certain political leanings have seen multiple stories "fact-checked" by Facebook/Twitter/Google as false and suppressed turn out to be true or partially true months down the line. These people are relieved to see another government, any government, give twitter/facebook/google "what's coming to it"
> people of certain political leanings have seen multiple stories "fact-checked" by Facebook/Twitter/Google as false and suppressed turn out to be true or partially true months down the line.
Nothing is perfect, but what are you referring to specifically?