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Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by hartleybrody »

3327 wrote: post #13
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #10

I understand the anger against Ryanair aloofness and its dictatorship compliance, but I think it's diverting energy from the real culprits, which are the kidnappers and their boss.

Well, EU skies are no longer safe. If a journalist can be picked up, anyone can be. Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course. It would be a game of chicken and risky. So hard to say what is right wrong here. Most importantly, its the fact that EU is weak and Belarus did the math and concluded they would get away with it. Simple As that.

Pilot was told their flight was being diverted due to a suspected bomb on board. What "game of chicken" would make a pilot doubt that instruction and chose to keep flying, given what the information they were being presented at the time?

It's not like they called to the plane and said "we'd like to kidnap a passenger, please land" and the pilot went along with it.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by solarkraft »

tluyben2 wrote: post #18
nasduia wrote: post #5

The main purpose of that statement (as always with Ryanair) was to state it was outside of their control and therefore they will auto-reject any claims for delay compensation, regardless of legality.

I do not know why anyone uses them still. I find them awful in every way. Will stay-cation if I cannot afford the ticket with another airline.

O‘Leary himself said some people will walk on broken glass to get a cheap flight. They completely own offering a shitty experience.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by consp »

plantain wrote: post #24
tluyben2 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not know why anyone uses them still. I find them awful in every way. Will stay-cation if I cannot afford the ticket with another airline.

Because you'll often be faced with a 500 euro+ fare for a short flight on the national airlines, with either one of WizzAir/RyanAir offering the same flight for 20-80 euro. 9/10 times the service is near-identical to a flagship. 1/10 times, the sub-par exception handling reveals itself. That's a trade-off I make regularly to save 400 euros.

There is a major difference: space. I cannot sit in a ryanair/transavia/whizzair seat for more than takeoff before the person in front has destroyed my knees. Most "premium" airlines have 1-2 inches more space and the option for more spacious seats.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

#34

Post by sccxy »

3327 wrote: post #13
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #10

I understand the anger against Ryanair aloofness and its dictatorship compliance, but I think it's diverting energy from the real culprits, which are the kidnappers and their boss.

Well, EU skies are no longer safe. If a journalist can be picked up, anyone can be. Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course. It would be a game of chicken and risky. So hard to say what is right wrong here. Most importantly, its the fact that EU is weak and Belarus did the math and concluded they would get away with it. Simple As that.

How can it be pilots fault?

Avoiding that request could have been another MH17 story.

EU and NATO must show their strength now, it is not up to Ryanair anymore.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by app4soft »

romanovcode wrote: post #19

Statement is wrong. "..authorities cleared the aircraft to depart together with passangers and crew.." One passanger, Roman Protasevich, was removed fron the plane, the sole reason why this whole thing happened.

> One passanger, Roman Protasevich, was removed fron the plane

There was also info that 6 passengers was removed in Minsk: Protasevich, his girlfriend and probably 4 Belarus' KGB agents.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by ucha »

tluyben2 wrote: post #18
nasduia wrote: post #5

The main purpose of that statement (as always with Ryanair) was to state it was outside of their control and therefore they will auto-reject any claims for delay compensation, regardless of legality.

I do not know why anyone uses them still. I find them awful in every way. Will stay-cation if I cannot afford the ticket with another airline.

They run quite a number of routes between smaller cities than no other airlines does.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by tW4r »

app4soft wrote: post #16
8draco8 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane to Minsk and there was KGB agents on board. I don't think crew had much to say. This was pure aircraft hijacking backed up by country (or two).

> Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane Info about MiG's escort NOT verified — there are no any photos/videos at this moment which shows MiG-29 side-by-side with Ryanair's plane.

There is an interview with the First Deputy Commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces of Belarus where he confirms that Mig-29 escorted the Boeing

https://youtu.be/dsyfJ_HqjtQ

Additionally there is an alleged video of the Mig landing after escort with 6 air-to-air missiles visible

https://youtu.be/AV8Im44ZtoI

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by kristiandupont »

3327 wrote: post #13
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #10

I understand the anger against Ryanair aloofness and its dictatorship compliance, but I think it's diverting energy from the real culprits, which are the kidnappers and their boss.

Well, EU skies are no longer safe. If a journalist can be picked up, anyone can be. Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course. It would be a game of chicken and risky. So hard to say what is right wrong here. Most importantly, its the fact that EU is weak and Belarus did the math and concluded they would get away with it. Simple As that.

>Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course.

It boggles my mind that anyone would think like this.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by patrickmcnamara »

tluyben2 wrote: post #18
nasduia wrote: post #5

The main purpose of that statement (as always with Ryanair) was to state it was outside of their control and therefore they will auto-reject any claims for delay compensation, regardless of legality.

I do not know why anyone uses them still. I find them awful in every way. Will stay-cation if I cannot afford the ticket with another airline.

They have €5 flights from Dublin to other European countries this summer. That is why.

Re: Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport

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Post by chippiewill »

3327 wrote: post #13
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #10

I understand the anger against Ryanair aloofness and its dictatorship compliance, but I think it's diverting energy from the real culprits, which are the kidnappers and their boss.

Well, EU skies are no longer safe. If a journalist can be picked up, anyone can be. Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course. It would be a game of chicken and risky. So hard to say what is right wrong here. Most importantly, its the fact that EU is weak and Belarus did the math and concluded they would get away with it. Simple As that.

There was a MiG that forced the plane to divert. I don't think you can blame the pilot for not rolling that dice.
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