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A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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Let's just hope their engineering teams in Romania and Vietman get a respectable share of the profits.

I'm working on this from Romania. Everything is ok.

What's the rate nowadays for devs in Romania? ~ $1k/month?

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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I absolutely expect this to be harder than it looks. If it was easy Google lens would do it. I had a similar shock when trying to do OCR from photos of receipts.

Google Lens isn't going to include a menu item for every single computer vision task with a simple specialized solution. OpenCV provides circle detection out of the box: https://docs.opencv.org/3.4/d4/d70/tutorial_hough_circle.htm... The only part that's somewhat difficult is tuning the parameters correctly. I've found setting all thresholds very low (generating lots of false positives) and then culling overlap to wo…

> The only part that's somewhat difficult is tuning the parameters correctly

Well, yes, that's what the value provided by the service is.

> count individual atoms in electron microscopy image

This sounds very cool - what sort of order of magnitude numbers were they, and how accurate was it in the end?

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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Is not it something anyone can do for free using image J with a bit of scripting.

Is this a bad time to remind HN of that famous comment on the founding of dropbox?

Technically many could do what dropbox did to create a similiar product when they were part of yc class. Many HN have a personal dropbox setup they made themselves.

The key that allowed them to be a billion dollar business was marketing, hype, strategy all things that could apply to any product technical or not.

If you want to make something similiar you could probably get to 80% really quickly. Putting together a product with a reputation is a different event with timing luck and risk. Building that 80% is low risk but high personal reward.

Has anyone built something to read and identify palms or lines in the hands?

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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I'm working on this from Romania. Everything is ok.

What's the rate nowadays for devs in Romania? ~ $1k/month?

It really depends on the city and the type of business. Bucharest wages are higher.

Btw, we are not an outsourcing company. Everything is done in Romania: development, sales, management.

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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Counting elements from pictures is how old again now? 20 years? 30 years? Sure, it's more reliable and you can run it on a phone. But maybe this could have been solved 20 years ago. (Yes, it might not have been as convenient, but for something that apparently is so important, it could have been applied earlier) Japan, a country which in the 80s was synonymous with technological innovation seems to have slowed down dr…

> Japan, a country which in the 80s was synonymous with technological innovation seems to have slowed down dramatically in adopting new technologies

Japan is not a country I associate with a drop in technology adoption, have you been there? It's like going to the future

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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Wow, this is such a simple application of ML and it is incredibly valuable. On their website, they charge $100/month per device or $1000/year per device [0] and I bet they're making a killing. [0] https://countthings.com/en/

I wish I could get a bead on how useful ML is. Hackernews makes me think it’s all hype.

A reasonable summary would probably be "useful in mostly though not always modest ways in many areas, but _severely_ overhyped". It's not nothing, but it's also probably not going to lead to self-driving cars or even fully-accurate voice recognition anytime soon, say.

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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Wow, this is such a simple application of ML and it is incredibly valuable. On their website, they charge $100/month per device or $1000/year per device [0] and I bet they're making a killing. [0] https://countthings.com/en/

I would not say it's that simple, they do have many trained models with high accuracy.

https://countthings.com/en/counting-templates

Re: A Japanese company cut 80% of the time needed to manually count pearls

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To counter other’s points on pricing - in the end it’s a question of utility vs price. 1k$ per year to cut time to count by 80% may be a great deal to many.

who is responsible now?

In this case, it would be reasonable that the person who uses the app would be responsible. The app takes the image and labels every pearl with a number. So the person just needs to check there were no missing or mislabeled pearls, which is much easier than counting.
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