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Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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Weight and bmi are information about you. Sex and other activies are information of your activies. It's simply grouped as it should be.

"To be is to do" - Socrates "To do is to be" - Sartre "Do Be Do Be Do" - Sinatra

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Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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Weight and bmi are information about you. Sex and other activies are information of your activies. It's simply grouped as it should be.

And that comment right there is why programmers shouldn't design social networks.

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Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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On a public account on Daytum.com I once came across a chart in which a couple seemed to be logging their sexual positions, including "what what in the butt." Daytum is pretty much anonymous are far as the end user goes, there's no name or "social" information to an account, but it was pretty funny and doubt they knew other people could see that data.

Actually it isn't very anonymous at all. From a few minutes of looking at that account I know both of their first names and their address (also the name of their cat).

Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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I think it's crazy that they by default share when you have sex, for how long, and how hard, but that they decided that weight and bmi information should be private.

They don't. When I created a fitbit account, I chose whether or not I wanted my profile public. Then, when I want to log an activity, I enter in a name and duration for it.

So if I choose to have a public profile, accessible to the world (which was clear to me when I signed up), then I choose to make an activity called "sexual activity", it's indexable and publicly visible.

Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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Is it only Americans that see this as a problem? Let me be the first European to redundantly point out that sex is natural and nothing to be ashamed of. So what's the big deal? How many more years will it take the moral (majority?) to get over the way our bodies work.

Let me be the first European to apologize for the totally unfounded holier-than-thou post in the parent, and confirm that also in Europe it's complete abnormal to share a public log of your sex life ('abnormal' as in 'the vast majority of people don't do it and strongly object if they found out they had been doing it on accident', not as 'deemed clinically insane' or so).

And if the parent disagrees, I challenge him/her to link to his/her log.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weight and bmi are information about you. Sex and other activies are information of your activies. It's simply grouped as it should be.

And that comment right there is why programmers shouldn't design social networks.

Yes, with the notable exceptions of the designers of like, every successful social network ever.

Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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Really, again? When I have an own opinion here that does not follow the mainstream, I just get downvoted without any arguments. Why is it so bad to have your sex duration published but its okay that your jogging performance visible to the world?

Animals have very strict rules and regulations about the sacred act of rubbing genitals together.

And humans have been endowed with brains to get around instinct controlled behavior that is not useful.

Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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To be fair, the only reason this info is public is the person is 'tagging' the activity. By default all tagged links in delicious are public and that makes sense. If you tag an activity like this on fitbit, you should mark it private. I have a fitbit and I can't for the life of me figure out why people would start tagging every activity they do and start and end times... but if they are adding tags, comments, and oth…

When I saw the headline, I wondered how the machine determined that you were having sex, rather than just doing (for example) pressups, squat thrusts and crunches (possibly in close proximity to another user doing similar exercise). It would have to be an exceptionally subtle piece of accelerometer/resistance meter interpretation to distinguish the difference.

wastedbrains' reply told me exactly what I needed to know. Fitbit users are not "unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives", but deliberately marking their exercise sessions with their very personal trainer as games of hide-the-sausage; using a tool that is designed to publicly share information about ones exercise sessions.

Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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I will note that a lot of people aren't all that savvy/don't really think about the consequences. People have been fired for posting remarks on their Facebook account that their employer then read. People seem to routinely underestimate just how public stuff on the internet is and both users of a site and administrators commit big errors in that regard. In online forums, I have seen someone post a thread that from the get go was obvious to me was trouble and would likely attract negative attention from the folks it was trashing. Did any of the moderators step in up front and do something about it? Nope. They stepped in only after trouble had come to their door to crab at the person who started the thread. I think the person who started the thread genuinely did not expect the outcome that resulted -- they posted as if among friends/talking with a group of friends, apparently oblivious to the fact that anyone with an internet connection could find these public remarks, join the forum, and reply.

I'm aware of this issue and still sometimes run into friction over it. The internet allows us to belong to many more social groupings than in the past and it gets complicated trying to determine what info and how much to share where/with whom...etc.

Re: Fitbit users are unwittingly sharing details of their sex lives with the world

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Really, again? When I have an own opinion here that does not follow the mainstream, I just get downvoted without any arguments. Why is it so bad to have your sex duration published but its okay that your jogging performance visible to the world?

"Why is it so bad to have your sex duration published but its okay that your jogging performance visible to the world?" They are completely different. Maybe not to you but if you can't see how it would bother some people then you're not thinking very hard.

They are completely different to me as well, which is why I don't record rumpy-pumpy on runkeeper, or wear my HRM/Cadence/GPS watch for it.

They are evidently not completely different to the users of fitbit who are telling the world about it, because otherwise they wouldn't be overtly and deliberately stating (on a website whose purpose is to share activity details with the world) that any particular 2m52s of increased activity was due to squelching.

Please let me know if I've missed some crucial point regarding fitbit usage, because I really can't see how this is "unwitting".

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