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Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is.

>Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there are multiple stores, people could still go shop at Apple,” right?

>“It seems like a decision that they shouldn’t have to make,” Cook says.

https://twitter.com/thedextriarchy/status/139579670438178406...

>Will people not be able to distinguish between an official and unofficial store?

>“They’ve never had to do it before. They’ve bought into something that’s an ecosystem that just works.”

>So you don’t know if people can tell the difference?

>“I’m saying I don’t know,” Cook says.

https://twitter.com/thedextriarchy/status/139579711859036569...

>Apple can’t really know that it runs a better app store than anyone else, when it’s never let anyone try, right?

>“It’s an experiment I didn’t want to run,” Cook says. Customers “uniformly” want it to “stay like it is."

https://twitter.com/thedextriarchy/status/139579741076549632...

Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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post #2

Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is. > Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there…

Why not give customers the choice to run other app stores? Imagine if all the software on your laptop must be downloaded from the windows store..

Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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Other news on this has quotes from Tim Cook saying that they'd have to find a way to track purchases on IOS and bill developers so that Apple still gets their cut when using other payment processors.

For me, this is way over the line. If they want to charge developers to be on their store, fine. I don't have a problem with that. And charging for using them as a payment processor makes sense. Charging for using Apple services makes sense.

But charging them simply because they make money while on a device that an end-user owns? No. Apple doesn't own that device any more. They sold it to someone. Apple owns the store, and the infrastructure. If a developer isn't using that infrastructure, they don't owe anything.

I'd be fine with however they want to charge, if there was another way to be on IOS.

I'd be less happy with developers being able to use their own payment processors and be on the app store for free. There's a chilling anti-free-speech type of thing going on there.

But I'm dead set against both of those happening at once, as it currently is.

Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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We need a WASM box for QT and Node running with full API access. This is the best way I can see to bypass the restrictions of the App Store.

The best way to bypass their restrictions is to stop buying Apple devices.

I somehow imagine that is a less realistic an expectation.

Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is. > Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there…

I hope multiple App Stores don’t become a thing on iOS. The reason I like iPhone is that I am assured that apps I download from App Store are not shit and curated by Apple. Apple has vested interest to keep apps made available to be clean and not going to compromise iPhone. Android play store, in comparison, is full of crap and free for all, basically buyer (or downloader) beware.

Phone is used by too broad of user groups, from very young to very old, for apps to be left unchecked unlike laptops and desktops.

Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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post #2

Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is. > Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there…

I hope multiple App Stores don’t become a thing on iOS. The reason I like iPhone is that I am assured that apps I download from App Store are not shit and curated by Apple. Apple has vested interest to keep apps made available to be clean and not going to compromise iPhone. Android play store, in comparison, is full of crap and free for all, basically buyer (or downloader) beware. Phone is used by too broad of user g…

How do you explain that the majority of apps are contaminated by spyware like the Facebook SDK and dozens of other equivalents? (which for the record is in breach of the GDPR and Apple could be considered complicit if they allow this while at the same time requiring all apps to comply with local laws and has removed apps who break or could be used to break the law before)

How do you explain scam apps that deliberately mislead users into signing up to a "free trial" subscription that renews at a ridiculous price 3 days later?

Re: Tim Cook’s Fortnite trial testimony was unexpectedly revealing

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post #2

Tim Cook's line of argument seemed a bit weird to me. On one hand he's saying that he doesn't know if Apple's customers would be able to distinguish between Apple's good and holy curated store and Epic's filthy shitheap of porn and blackjack, but he's also saying that Apple's customers definitely want Apple's App Store as-is. > Lawyer says, “if people really value Apple’s curation and Apple’s App Store, even if there…

Why not give customers the choice to run other app stores? Imagine if all the software on your laptop must be downloaded from the windows store..

Sometimes less freedom is a good thing. It frees the customer's mind to let an organization they trust make the tedious product evaluations for you. We do it all the time with retail shopping where we enjoy the curated decisions of the shop's owner instead of a giant bazaar.
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