One note: the article misses the connection between this and the current lawsuit between Epic and Apple. These companies are opposing right-to-repair in part because it undermines the ability to maintain control over what software people run on their devices, and where they install software from.
Microsoft and Apple wage war on gadget right-to-repair laws
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> must be forced to make parts and schematics available to any independent repair shop, just like car makers have to do The only reason this has been possible for car makers until now is because the technology to stop it didn’t exist. But it does now, and car makers are definitely moving in the direction of “lock down”. You already can’t replace wireless key fobs, and entertainment head units are locked down. Repair…
> You already can’t replace wireless key fobs ? https://www.citrusford.com/parts/parts-tips/how-to-program-f... https://northcoastkeyless.com/2020-gmc-sierra-keyless-entry-...
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#103I think it's better to align financial incentives.
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#104I really like Thom Holwerda's from OSnews take on the article. Especially the "glorified toaster makers" part. https://www.osnews.com/story/133436/microsoft-and-apple-wage... > What’s good enough for the car industry, is more than good enough for these glorified toaster makers. Cars are basically murder weapons we kind of screwed ourselves into being reliant on, but Apple and Microsoft make complicated toasters that…
Love this take on it. That said, there's a California State Bill SB-605 "Medical Device Right to Repair Act" that's going through the motions at the moment. Medical devices are not "basically murder weapons we kind of screwed ourselves into being reliant on" . I'd like to hear what peoples' take on Medical Devices is?
The oldest devices I serviced run on Windows 3.1 and still work fine. There's a touchscreen mono CRT that runs on some custom build of Windows 3.1 in daily use at that office. I use Windows 98 daily.
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#105I want both a repairability index and a recyclability index, with increased taxes on sales of items that are less repairable or recyclable. Those items are more costly to repair or recycle, and thus more wasteful and inefficient. I think it's better to align financial incentives.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, I live in a state (Massachusetts) that has passed two right-to-repair laws via ballot initiative. Both passed over intense opposition from the auto industry; almost all advertising in the lead up to the vote was in opposition. But it passed in both cases because... it's common sense. If you buy a product, it's yours and you should be able to do what you want with it, whether that means modifying the hardware or…
inb4 all the Apple shills who will claim they only ever want a product in a completely sandboxed environment where the device manufacturer holds their hand every step of the way
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#107My main complaint against right-to-repair laws is mostly to the extent that some people push for. I am not against manufacturers being forced to provide things like schematics or parts to third party repair shops. I don't think that companies like Apple should be able to decide who is allowed to or not allowed to access parts to repair their devices. I also don't think that Apple should place DRM on its parts to chec…
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#108I just replaced my phone battery using an iFixit kit a few minutes ago. It's probably extended the life of my phone by a year.
My iPhone XS Max screen cracked a few weeks ago and I've been debating sending it in for repair. Apple charges $300 friggin dollars to "fix" the display (I think they just send you a new phone). Looking online, displays only cost around $50-$90. So I've considered doing that instead, but if I go down that route, my phone will no longer support the "True Tone" feature. This is because Apple burned the serial number of…
I doubt it, your secure enclave-protected secrets and data will still be there after the repair (unless they move the logic board from the old phone to a new one, which would be very interesting).
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#109Why is Microsoft against this? They don’t really make much that needs repairing. Is Xbox that big of a market for them?
Re: Microsoft and Apple wage war on gadget right-to-repair laws
#110My main complaint against right-to-repair laws is mostly to the extent that some people push for. I am not against manufacturers being forced to provide things like schematics or parts to third party repair shops. I don't think that companies like Apple should be able to decide who is allowed to or not allowed to access parts to repair their devices. I also don't think that Apple should place DRM on its parts to chec…
Manufacturers are not penalised for their technical choices. Making a thinner system seems like a great innovation but society at large pays for that product being non-repairable. If you want corporations to have free reign on being able to innovate, there has to be some counter-incentive to force them to find innovative solutions around lengthning the life of of the product and its ability to be repaired and recycle…