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Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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If there are restrictions, I hope they target major microplastic sources like tires and textiles, rather than easily scapegoated but very minor sources, like plastic bags and drinking straws. Based on precedent, I am not holding my breath, but I hope so.

I'm personally hoping they revisit all the endocrine-disrupting crap added to fire-retarding fabrics and food container lining.

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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post #16

Any insight on how this might impact the 3D printer space?

It probably won’t much, as the most common plastic is actually corn based (PLA) and IIRC, can be composted. Only commercially though https://www.3dnatives.com/en/pla-filament-230720194/

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Many people might think something as massive as the ocean is basically unlimited and that there's no way us humans could screw it up. Not true. Take a sample of seawater from almost anywhere right now and you'll find microplastics. Something like 80% of the world's fish stocks are also gone from overfishing.

I can't understand this perspective at all, but it seems to have been a key philosophy guiding human development for a very long time. Was it just a belief based on convenience?

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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post #6

Great. Regulation and reduction of plastic production is long overdue. There are some places where it makes sense to use plastic, but we're far, far overproducing the stuff because it's convenient. It's fantastically difficult to recycle in practice, burning it produces toxic smoke and carbon emissions, and putting it into the waste stream results in a bunch of it getting dropped on the sides of roadways.

Hopefully reduction of plastic production does not lead to reduction in plastic recycling.

Not sure why it would?

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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post #16

Any insight on how this might impact the 3D printer space?

From TFA:

> Under the proposed rules, Canada will ban six single-use plastic items, like straws and six-pack rings, create incentives for companies to use recycled plastic, and force plastic producers to pay for recycling

I suspect it won't restrict 3d printing, but could conceivably increase prices for some materials.

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so our PM can demonstrate to everyone how progressive he is. Maybe he should focus on providing vaccines instead (Canada's vaccination rate sits at barely 4% while the US is at 38%) [0] and stop pushing pipelines to export some of the most environmentally destructive oil on the planet [1]. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccina... [1] https://news.yahoo.com/trudeau-stresses-disappointment-…

Over 40% of Canadians are partially vaccinated

As one of that number I was glad to see this: a single shot of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine is 80% effective in preventing infection (vs the ~90% of two shots):

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/29/cdc-study-shows-single-dose-...

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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post #6

Great. Regulation and reduction of plastic production is long overdue. There are some places where it makes sense to use plastic, but we're far, far overproducing the stuff because it's convenient. It's fantastically difficult to recycle in practice, burning it produces toxic smoke and carbon emissions, and putting it into the waste stream results in a bunch of it getting dropped on the sides of roadways.

Is there a good list of what things we can reasonably replace? As I'm typing this I wonder what we would use for shock absorbant things like phone cases or water proof seals like cv boots on car suspensions.

Edit:. Looking around, electrical insulation, seals, and shock absorbers are the three things that I cant think of a good replacement for. Some seals like for weather proofing you could use spring bronze.

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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Many people might think something as massive as the ocean is basically unlimited and that there's no way us humans could screw it up. Not true. Take a sample of seawater from almost anywhere right now and you'll find microplastics. Something like 80% of the world's fish stocks are also gone from overfishing.

I can't understand this perspective at all, but it seems to have been a key philosophy guiding human development for a very long time. Was it just a belief based on convenience?

It's a story as old as humanity. There's many examples of humans exhausting their nearby resources because they thought they were effectively infinite. Whether that's a forest, a food stock, a water source, or something else.

Re: Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully reduction of plastic production does not lead to reduction in plastic recycling.

Not sure why it would?

If there is less demand for plastic in general, then that means there could be less demand for recycling (properly sorted) old plastic to produce new plastic goods.
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