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Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Twitch continues to pretend hot tub streams aren't intentionally sexually suggestive. What a joke. HN doesn't really do memes, but I made this because it seems relevant: https://imgflip.com/i/5ah3b7

They probably have ridiculously good engagement. Very tough for twitch to give that up more than likely.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Twitch continues to pretend hot tub streams aren't intentionally sexually suggestive. What a joke. HN doesn't really do memes, but I made this because it seems relevant: https://imgflip.com/i/5ah3b7

They probably have ridiculously good engagement. Very tough for twitch to give that up more than likely.

The joke is asserting that hot tub streams aren't sexually suggestive. The twitch community seems to love them, so of course Twitch will fight tooth and nail to keep them. But to suggest that they aren't sexually suggestive (and by proxy against Twitch ToS) is an absolute joke. They look like clowns.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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> especially considering the ways that female characters are sometimes objectified or presented in a sexualized manner

Probably the most interesting and persuasive case they have. What if a human being dressed like League's Evelynn, a succubus? Would they be banned from Twitch? No, of course not. Would it be sexually suggestive? They've illuminated how disingenuous of a question that is, because Evelynn is a character in a game people stream.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Twitch continues to pretend hot tub streams aren't intentionally sexually suggestive. What a joke. HN doesn't really do memes, but I made this because it seems relevant: https://imgflip.com/i/5ah3b7

They probably have ridiculously good engagement. Very tough for twitch to give that up more than likely.

Engagement doesn't pay the bills. In fact advertisers don't want to pay for this and don't want their advertising shown on these streams. Ultimately that's what the new policy is about. They're adding a new category so that advertisers can filter these things out.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Twitch continues to pretend hot tub streams aren't intentionally sexually suggestive. What a joke. HN doesn't really do memes, but I made this because it seems relevant: https://imgflip.com/i/5ah3b7

Twitch put it succinctly here:

>Prohibiting every form of content that could be interpreted as suggestive would also result in far more restrictions on the video games and premium content that we currently allow, especially considering the ways that female characters are sometimes objectified or presented in a sexualized manner.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Twitch continues to pretend hot tub streams aren't intentionally sexually suggestive. What a joke. HN doesn't really do memes, but I made this because it seems relevant: https://imgflip.com/i/5ah3b7

I didn't know there were so many outraged prudes on twitch. Why should twitch have a sexually suggestive content rule in the first place?

This rule actually seems reasonable:

> Nudity or sexually explicit content (which we define as pornography, sex acts, and sexual services) are not allowed on Twitch.

I don't see what the huge issue with showing off your own sexiness is. Sheesh!

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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They claim that they only prohibit things that are intentionally suggestive, but every streamer is afraid to accidentally show their feet because they get a ban. Twitch has inconsistencies in the way they apply their policies, and they sometimes don’t even tell a streamer why they got a ban. Creating a beach and hot tub category is the least of their worries. But at least it makes it easier for me to intentionally find attractive women in swimsuits who are streaming their sexiness unintentionally, and filter them out when I’m not looking for it.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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> Community and advertiser feedback made clear that we need to offer more ways to control the content that’s recommended as well as where ads appear. So, we’re introducing a new category: Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches. If you have chosen swimwear that is allowed under the “Swim and Beaches” contextual exception to our standard Nudity and Attire policy, you should stream into the Pools, Hot Tubs and Beaches category.

People set up kiddy-pools in their room with a bit of water to get this "contextual exception" for the express purpose of streaming suggestive content. Why not just remove the exception and let people stream sexually suggestive content and make a separate category for that without a ridiculous "beaches and pools" euphemism?

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