Maybe it was worth it. It definitely was expensive, despite living cheaply. I didn't prepare at all, aside from my normal habit of living below my means.
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#12Now I am just going to be working part time, as I loved the balance that doing non-computer related work gave me. With proper budgeting, and a decent industry you will be surprised how little work one needs to do to live a happy and humble life.
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#13I retired at 32 and its been about 5 years. Its pretty fucking cool. One thing is everyone else looks super retarded. I missed out on all this Me-Too and covid and social justice insanity, so thats cool. But man, it really makes everyone look really insane if you are not a part of it. I don't think I could go back at this point. Also, I tend to give less of a shit about social pressures if you are not always worried…
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#14I have done it twice. The first time I spent about 3 months riding my bicycle around the US. Then spent a few months looking for a job. It was not a good market. The second time I spent 7 months in New Zealand and Australia. Half the time biking. Took only 2 months to find the job I had before I left. I was trying to get one in a different city. Make sure you have your health insurance lined up, in case you have a he…
2) have a budget. what can you spend per day? What is your current burn rate vs your new one vs liquid assets on hand? Are you OK with the difference?
3) when you start looking again what are your expectations? You now have put a hole in your resume. Remember companies like the idea of you can 'hit the ground running' so have a story for this. From their side of the desk you look like someone who can not get hired. They will use it as a filter. They have 200 resumes to look at and 199 have to go. Any dumb thing they can to kick you off that pile is one they will do.
4) do you have other obligations? For example car payments? Spouse? Parents who need help? etc? These may consume your time/money faster than you think or plan. As they will all say the same thing 'you are not working why dont you ....' Set boundaries.
I personally would not do it again. It was enjoyable enough. But the money anxiety I got was bad. Even not really having any debts or anything to worry about. It was just too much for me personally. I was not bored as I have plenty of projects I like to piddle with.
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#15Yes, totally worth it.
Yes, totally got bored. That's a good thing, it's the polar opposite of creativity and we need to live there some of the time or we lose track of the value of creativity and come to think of it as the day-to-day grind instead of the fun adventure it can be.
It was not more expensive. With all that time I could make my own food and minimize the monetary friction of convenience to save time. Everything went much slower and more thoughtful.
Helpful prep? Have ideas for a project, something to accomplish on a day to day habit kind of process and another long term. Not stressful projects, nor necessarily productive projects. Maybe learning? Maybe more physicality? Me, I did more yoga and took classes at a local maker space. Worst thing you can do is leave all your time open and free. You won't value it. Well, 2nd worst thing is to expect you can do too much and kick yourself for not living up to your potential.
Relax.
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#16The immense focus, waking up and working on my thing. No pointless meetings, standups, or sucking up to people. I feel that I got a taste of what people that are financially independent always rave about. I started frequenting a local coffee shop, got to meet a ton of people from all walks of life.
Totally worth it.
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#17I think the experience completely broke my willingness to return to a "normal" tech role again and I've bounced between short bursts of employment and long bursts of not working or semi–employment as a consultant.
I think it also saved my life.
Mistakes I made:
I didn't have a plan to structure my time off.
I didn't have any goals to accomplish in my time off.
I didn't arrange ahead of time for a role to return to.
What I did do: learned basic Mandarin, established a relationship that has lasted 20+ years, read many non CS / non-technical books, focused on getting healthier and fitter.Specific advice: structure your time off, set goals, try to accomplish them but don't punish yourself if you fail. Arrange ahead of time for a role to return to, even if it's time limited or isn't what you "really want to do".
I wrote longer about this previously but can't find it in my first few pages of comments.
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#18I'm also planning on doing this. I fervently want to live in another country for at least a few months. I could probably stop working for about 6 months if I pick a cheap country.
In my experience you need to live somewhere for a bit longer to really understand and appreciate it. Takes me about a year to get of the shock and start to settle in. If you can, make it 3 years for a proper taste.
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#19In 2016, I quit my job working at a small software firm in Chicago. I didn't think I would do it, I was afraid I would keep putting it off, so one day in the middle of the workday I just abruptly opened AirBnB and booked an apartment for two months in Paris, just like that, non-refundable, plus a flight, also non-refundable. It was 7 months in advance, to give myself plenty of time, but also to put a definitive date on the matter. I had never been outside the US at the time. I left at the end of July and spent all of August, September, and October in Europe, living off savings and just enjoying the sights, alone.
I have a mixture of extremely good and sad memories. I do not regret it in any way and am extremely glad I did it.
My place in Paris was lovely, right by Les Gobelins in the heart of the city. The weather was beautiful and I would just spend days walking the streets, visiting every museum and cathedral and café and restaurant. The best thing is that under such circumstances you aren't pressed to fit everything into a few days-- you have the freedom to do something every day or every few days, whatever pace you feel like. So you never end up feeling hassled or pressured.
I would pass whole afternoons sitting in the window of the bookshop across from Notre-Dame Cathedral, listening to the churchbells and reading books. I would spend many evenings walking the river. If I felt like it, I would take a train out of the city to a random village in the countryside and visit castle ruins. I did this many times. It's amazing what you can find sitting around in Europe, hundreds or thousands of years old decaying in a field. So much history there.
I rented a car and drove to Normandy, and to the south, and saw many more things. Eventually I flew to Italy, and then to Croatia. Croatia was the best part of the whole trip-- it's an unbelievably gorgeous country. It's not so well known as Italy and Greece and France, but it's as good or better.
A lot of this time was spent playing video games on my laptop in my airbnb room, being a little sad that I was on my own. That's the other side of it. Some friends flew out and spent time with me there, totalling two weeks, but the other eight weeks was just me in a land where I could only speak the language well enough to get by, but not well enough to get to know anyone meaningfully. It was lonely. And all the while I knew I had to go back and figure out what to do next.
I think it depends. You have to know yourself. Money can take away some causes of unhappiness, but it can't give happiness, only freedom, which isn't the same thing. Purpose is happiness, someone said to me recently, and I agree with them. Traveling on my own, I had freedom, but no purpose beyond seeing beautiful and ancient things that I'd never seen before. It was lovely, and I'll do it again soon. But I wasn't as happy as the times when I knew I was where I was meant to be, with people who needed me there and wanted me there.
I don't have a tidy conclusion. It's just food for thought I guess. My personal answer to OP's question. For what it's worth, the whole 3 months cost me <$6000. Staying in one airbnb for an extended block of time and buying groceries instead of eating out 3x a day makes a big difference, plus the trains are cheap in Europe.
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#20I took a three month leave of absence at the end of a six year run of 7x24 days in the dot com era, totally burned out. I extended it another three months as I entered the initial last month as I didn't feel "ready" to return. I think the experience completely broke my willingness to return to a "normal" tech role again and I've bounced between short bursts of employment and long bursts of not working or semi–employm…
Would imposing a structure and setting goals for your time off have helped or interfered with these (admittedly admirable) results?