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Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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Re: Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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Try to take 3 months off maximum.

With my paid job I sometimes got overwhelmed and sometimes felt a lack of purpose. At those times I found solace in side projects and would even try to sneak in working on them at my paid job. A few of those projects were successful enough to quit my paid job for a few years.

Since then I've turned to quitting my job first and then trying to start a side project. It's not the same and I haven't succeeded. When you have infinite time you stop to value it. You can always do it tomorrow or next month and the procrastination or perfectionism creep in.

My sister says that if you really want something done, you should give it to the busiest person you know. It seems contradictory, but the busy person values their time and they will get your task done as fast and as efficiently as possible.

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I have done it twice. The first time I spent about 3 months riding my bicycle around the US. Then spent a few months looking for a job. It was not a good market. The second time I spent 7 months in New Zealand and Australia. Half the time biking. Took only 2 months to find the job I had before I left. I was trying to get one in a different city.

Make sure you have your health insurance lined up, in case you have a hernia in Australia and get it operated on then... never know.

Have a better 'back to work plan' then what I had.

Have goals and schedules. Have some loose timelines. RE examine your goals, preferably with a trusted friend, to keep you intellectually honest. Do this on a strongly fixed schedule. Be it once a week, once a month, every other month. I would not recommend less often then every 3 months.

My first trip was a burnout fix. My second was because I could.

I would say make a detailed budget, but that depends on your plans and resources. I did not, but I usually have a good sense of what my finances are.

Do not go into debt for this.

Re: Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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I did it after my first job. It was a break of about a year and I spent the first 5 months just backpacking around and climbing mountains.

I enjoyed being off grid with even my smartphone mostly off and being used just as a camera. It just felt very relaxing and I was in the best of my mental state then. I got the chance to meet a lot of new people from different backgrounds and just have different experiences in different places.

I didn't regret it a bit but after a while I kind of started missing my computer as well, because I do really enjoy building stuff as well. So after five months, I started working on some ideas I had, sadly they didn't pan out and I joined a new job in some time after doing 2-3 weeks of interview preparation. In total, it was a break of about a year.

Since I mostly used to stay in hostels, tents and was mostly on foot or cycle, it wasn't expensive. But if you are used to a paycheck, it seems weird when you have to take money out of your investments. So, you start thinking about your long term savings after a while.

I am not sure what you meant by preparing, I didn't have an exact plan or budget. I just had some mental estimate of the rough expenditure and how much of my savings I was willing to burn.

It totally depends on you but if I do it again; I would plan it a bit upfront(at least the major checkpoints) and would keep my break between 3-6 months.

Re: Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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I retired at 32 and its been about 5 years. Its pretty fucking cool. One thing is everyone else looks super retarded. I missed out on all this Me-Too and covid and social justice insanity, so thats cool. But man, it really makes everyone look really insane if you are not a part of it.

I don't think I could go back at this point. Also, I tend to give less of a shit about social pressures if you are not always worried your boss or whoever might see something to say or type.

Overall I feel bad for people that have to live the life of working.

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The most surprising thing I discovered was that it took me 3 months to lose a jittery “I.SHOULD.DO.SOMETHING.NOW” feeling. Only after 3 months did I feel truly relaxed to pursue whatever interest-driven nerding project and at the same time letting go of a sense of achievement or progress. 2021 was supposed to be a “me” year until an interesting project came along. I said yes. Taking time off is hard.

Re: Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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My wife and I retired in 1998 and moved to the mountains (Sedona AZ). Since then I have worked onsite at Google and Capital One, otherwise did occasional consulting gigs remotely and worked briefly for two companies remotely. I feel like I have had large extended time off periods, except I am always writing a book (BTW, shameless plug: I just published my "Practical Artificial Intelligence Programming with Clojure" book today - grab a free copy from my web site https://markwatson.com)

I haven't been bored for too long since boredom is a trigger for getting some work. We are in a relatively inexpensive area to live which helps financially.

I would rather leave some money on the table and have more free time.

Re: Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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post #2

I'm also planning on doing this. I fervently want to live in another country for at least a few months. I could probably stop working for about 6 months if I pick a cheap country.

In my experience you need to live somewhere for a bit longer to really understand and appreciate it. Takes me about a year to get of the shock and start to settle in. If you can, make it 3 years for a proper taste.

Re: Ask HN: Those who have taken extended time off, any advice?

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post #9
post #2

I'm also planning on doing this. I fervently want to live in another country for at least a few months. I could probably stop working for about 6 months if I pick a cheap country.

In my experience you need to live somewhere for a bit longer to really understand and appreciate it. Takes me about a year to get of the shock and start to settle in. If you can, make it 3 years for a proper taste.

If I can figure out a way to make a decent income I'll do at a year or so.
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