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I daresay your patronizing tone is hardly helping your case.
That’s a personal message to tptacek who has a history of replying to my comments.
If you want to send tptacek a personal message, their email is plainly listed in their profile. You don't need to air out your beef in the public, and all it does is lower your credibility to do so.
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Hi this is Andrew from the post and freenode. Long story short, former staff were upset about a logo but the logos were there since the start. I wanted to share that. Secondly, staff claim there was a hostile takeover. I have owned freenode for years and was a great custodian as far as I can tell (only compliments from former staff some of which even flew into defcon and came to my house on my dime, internationally)…
> Long story short, former staff were upset about a logo but the logos were there since the start. I wanted to share that. https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/pull/489 "since the start."
In fact, thinking about it I seem to remember some discussion of the fact that the PIA logo had been added at the time and that it was something to do with their funding of Freenode Live, and that no-one much seemed to care back then aside from a few trolls of the sort Freenode has always attracted under all its owners.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20160413123025/https://freenode....
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As an ex-freenode staffer, this is simply untrue. You took over with zero transition plan, and no engagement with staff - none. You had had no involvement in the running of freenode until this week and had no relationship with any of the team. You marched in, announced that you were saving freenode from the "hostile takeover" of their own consensus-based, transparent, self-organisation, and SURPRISE they decided that…
Is it true that they pulled freenode’s mail server? I see lots of emotion here, and emotion is fine. But yanking someone’s existing infrastructure isn’t very nice. If that part isn’t true, though, then someone here is lying.
What happened after then will have entirely been within the control of the freenode management, their administration, and their sponsors.
Every ex-freenode staffer I have talked to has been exceptionally cautious about damaging the data and systems they tended for literal decades, and to my knowledge none were disrupted.
I think here, you have to look to Andrew, ask what his transition plan was, and what he thought would happen when he started throwing lawyer's letters at the head of a functioning and healthy team of sysadmins and staff members who were happy to continue the job they'd been doing for years, for the community, indefinitely..
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You mention you've donated millions. Presumably this is distributed across multiple projects. How much has freenode received from you?
Freenode > 1m
As an outsider who hasn't used IRC or Freenode in over a decade, this situation is impenetrable. Neither the posts by the Freenode volunteers nor this post by Andrew paint a coherent narrative I can follow (maybe I'm just old). Best I can gather, the flashpoint that triggered this series of events is a dispute over the control of the freenode domain name and DNS servers?
Hi this is Andrew from the post and freenode. Long story short, former staff were upset about a logo but the logos were there since the start. I wanted to share that. Secondly, staff claim there was a hostile takeover. I have owned freenode for years and was a great custodian as far as I can tell (only compliments from former staff some of which even flew into defcon and came to my house on my dime, internationally)…
It was ran by the very staff that all left. No exceptions, all of them. So who exactly where they taking it away from?
The appointed heads were appointed by all of staff, democratically, as your very PDF proves from the meeting notes. It is you who tried to force in people in a leading position that staff were disagreeing with, so if there was a hostile takeover, it was yours.
You also never owned freenode, you owned Freenode Limited. You had zero involvement with the network, that was ran by volunteers in their spare time.
Also you have not been locked out from DNS either. One of your employees insisted on enabling 2FA, and you simply haven't had a key. For ages, mind, not just for the past few weeks.
But sure, blame your mismanagement of your own company on volunteers that had nothing to do with you or your ltd.
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Probably would not be wise to guess or speculate and instead go by what I have actually said. The issue with services was because the previous team pulled our mail server and all its contents. We had to abruptly get everything in place. As for the decentralizing - that’s what I’m into and the way to do it on irc is by ending reliance on a central domain name for the connection. It’s not decided yet but is something I…
I see that you are spreading your falsehoods here, too. The issue with services was not due to the "previous team", but rather due to the sponsor pulling their box. The "previous team" had no access to them by that point. As you might have guessed, the sponsors had a gentlemen's agreement with previous staff and not with Freenode ltd. Now most of them obviously don't like sponsoring their boxes for your company, so t…
I think both sides in this are acting bizarre. You’re talking like it’s an oath of allegiance rather than an irc server.
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You mention you've donated millions. Presumably this is distributed across multiple projects. How much has freenode received from you?
Freenode > 1m
Infrastructure: all sponsored Staffers: all volunteers Development: all FOSS Third party services like GitHub: all sponsored
so what exactly would it have used > 1m on, please?
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I daresay your patronizing tone is hardly helping your case.
That’s a personal message to tptacek who has a history of replying to my comments.
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I see that you are spreading your falsehoods here, too. The issue with services was not due to the "previous team", but rather due to the sponsor pulling their box. The "previous team" had no access to them by that point. As you might have guessed, the sponsors had a gentlemen's agreement with previous staff and not with Freenode ltd. Now most of them obviously don't like sponsoring their boxes for your company, so t…
Leaving a project when you know that it will cause their infrastructure to collapse isn’t too professional. It seems pretty fair to characterize this as partly your fault, since, y’know, you caused it by leaving. I think both sides in this are acting bizarre. You’re talking like it’s an oath of allegiance rather than an irc server.
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I see that you are spreading your falsehoods here, too. The issue with services was not due to the "previous team", but rather due to the sponsor pulling their box. The "previous team" had no access to them by that point. As you might have guessed, the sponsors had a gentlemen's agreement with previous staff and not with Freenode ltd. Now most of them obviously don't like sponsoring their boxes for your company, so t…
Leaving a project when you know that it will cause their infrastructure to collapse isn’t too professional. It seems pretty fair to characterize this as partly your fault, since, y’know, you caused it by leaving. I think both sides in this are acting bizarre. You’re talking like it’s an oath of allegiance rather than an irc server.