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Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by ffggvv »

upwardbound wrote: post #106
ffggvv wrote: post #75

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>> Having female A.I. assistants perpetuates the gender wage gap by creating the idea that assistant jobs are a women's role. is there any proof of this or does it just sound true therefore its true? Specifically theres two claims here that i don't see any data backing up: 1. Female voices of AI creates the idea that assistants jobs are a women's role. 2. Assistants jobs being perceived as a woman's role somehow make…

Both of these topics are covered extensively in the long-form version of the UNESCO report. The link I posted was just a summary; here is the long form: https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000367416.page=85

that doesnt really have any real sources for the two assertions. it references this:

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6334/183/

which doesnt really have anything to do with the point. Just vaguely related to biases inferred from NLP. It also just quotes a few sociology professors who themselves dont provide proof behind their assertions. And then also points to:

https://wappp.hks.harvard.edu/publications/psychology-implic...

which itself just talks about biases in general and doesnt have anything to do with the voices of AI assistants.

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by mncharity »

js8 wrote: post #60

I wouldn't use these for AR, but just as a display. It would be really nice to be able to just walk or sit or lay in nature, and work there, with a combination of AR glasses and chorded keyboard. Too bad they killed Google Glass.

Nreal Light provides a fairly clean 1080p virtual ~115 inch screen floating at 2 meters. It's available variously outside the US. Inside the US, there's ebay with SKorea units (plus varying US Customs duties). I'm screen mirroring my laptop (as I type this, but not usually) using a usb3-from-hdmi dongle to work around issues. Assorted polish and comfort issues. Support is poor, so it's not turn-key, more hobby project.

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by upwardbound »

ffggvv wrote: post #111
upwardbound wrote: post #106

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Both of these topics are covered extensively in the long-form version of the UNESCO report. The link I posted was just a summary; here is the long form: https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000367416.page=85

that doesnt really have any real sources for the two assertions. it references this: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6334/183/ which doesnt really have anything to do with the point. Just vaguely related to biases inferred from NLP. It also just quotes a few sociology professors who themselves dont provide proof behind their assertions. And then also points to: https://wappp.hks.harvard.edu/publications/ps…

If you're interested you can also look at more sources in the first two pages of this Google Scholar search: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=voic...

By the way, what makes you say the gender wage gap isn't real? To many people that comes across as if you were denying climate change, and decreases your credibility overall. Just trying to engage as best I can.

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by mercutio2 »

upwardbound wrote: post #103
corndoge wrote: post #74

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This is such a weird response to a technical criticism, do you have anything to say about anything the parent poster said?

Oh, I totally understand the parent poster's perspective and they might 100% be right. If I were a betting man I would bet on Apple; who wouldn't? Only time will tell; I wasn't trying to refute the parent poster in any way. Was just highlighting an aspect of Specs that I really believe in that isn't in the press and wanted to put this somewhere that someone from Apple might hopefully read it.

Perhaps you didn’t realize Apple already made exactly this change in a recent update?

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by ffggvv »

stevewodil wrote: post #22
jeffbee wrote: post #17

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What would be any app for this? It's not immediately apparent why anyone would want this.

Turn by turn navigation that shows you the path to follow in AR that's overlaid on the real road. No more missing your exit, no more not being exactly sure which turn it wants you to take, etc. Would that appease you?

would be coool while walking. alot of cars already have HUDs like that overlayed onto the windshield

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by upwardbound »

mercutio2 wrote: post #114
upwardbound wrote: post #103

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Oh, I totally understand the parent poster's perspective and they might 100% be right. If I were a betting man I would bet on Apple; who wouldn't? Only time will tell; I wasn't trying to refute the parent poster in any way. Was just highlighting an aspect of Specs that I really believe in that isn't in the press and wanted to put this somewhere that someone from Apple might hopefully read it.

Perhaps you didn’t realize Apple already made exactly this change in a recent update?

correct, I totally did not and that is amazing!! Just three more to go :) Alexa, Cortana, and Google Assistant.

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by ffggvv »

upwardbound wrote: post #113
ffggvv wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that doesnt really have any real sources for the two assertions. it references this: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6334/183/ which doesnt really have anything to do with the point. Just vaguely related to biases inferred from NLP. It also just quotes a few sociology professors who themselves dont provide proof behind their assertions. And then also points to: https://wappp.hks.harvard.edu/publications/ps…

If you're interested you can also look at more sources in the first two pages of this Google Scholar search: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=voic... By the way, what makes you say the gender wage gap isn't real? To many people that comes across as if you were denying climate change, and decreases your credibility overall. Just trying to engage as best I can.

because the widely quoted figure of 79 cents to a dollar is only if you blindly compare incomes without adjusting for hours, experience, education, or even role.

obviously a part time elementary school teacher with two years experience will make less than a full time investmenet banker that works 80 hours a week and has 10 years experience.

Once you adjust for all the relevant factors the effect completely disappears and there isnt a gap. (with some studies find maybe 1-2% within the margin of error).

so at the very least its very misleading to say they get paid less for the same role and same expereince.

if you want to go into why they may go into different fields or work less hours and how that reflects on society thats fine.

But its grossly misleading to take those nunmbers and blindly compare them and say its "sexism". Actually indian and asian woman make more than white men. So white men must systemically be oppressed. Or maybe they choose different jobs. (i still remember when google had to adjust their L4 software engineer pay to raise mens pay, because women actually made more!)

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by atatatat »

tunesmith wrote: post #94
Seanambers wrote: post #80

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Ssshh.. You can't say that on HN. You might anger the WOKE mob!

I don't think I've ever heard a progressive use "woke" non-ironically. It's like a conservative catch phrase.

/r/conspiracy 2001-2009

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by perryizgr8 »

mortenjorck wrote: post #92
slg wrote: post #44

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It is good to see the brightness improving, but as someone who has played around with some AR devices I think AR is still waiting for the FOV to take a leap forward before these have mainstream appeal. It is just so unnatural when objects disappear from view if you aren't looking directly at them. This isn't as big of a problem in VR when your peripheral vision is just black and therefore your mind can easily learn t…

> Side note, props to Snap for being honest about this in their marketing material. That struck me too – I don't think I've ever seen marketing for an AR headset where I came away thinking "that's probably what it really looks like" until this. Not only have they not exaggerated the FOV, they also haven't fudged their compositing to give the impression that the optics are somehow able to add shadows or otherwise obsc…

It is because snap has to actually sell the glasses to users. Unlike others who were doing just tech demos.

Re: New Snap Spectacles Feature Augmented Reality Display

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Post by mncharity »

sixothree wrote: post #45
jeffbee wrote: post #17

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What would be any app for this? It's not immediately apparent why anyone would want this.

Sounds like a lack of imagination. Construction - Show size/length of objects, show if object is level, highlight location of needed tool. Navigation - Show arrow on top of uber/lyft, show directions. Show restaurant cleanliness score and rating. Food safety - Show how long food has been out of fridge Social - remind you of a persons name

> Social - remind you of a persons name

There was an MIT startup years ago, based on the observation that for some (impaired?) population, when glasses flashed a name, if it was correct, name recall improved, but if it was wrong, there was no negative impact. So low-accuracy recognition was ok.

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