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Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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I think one better way to handle commissions for home sales is to have no commission for the first $x of the price. X being a price that it would be very easy to sell at, a price low enough that the property would just immediately sell without much effort because it is too low. Then apply a much larger commission percentage to the amount it sells for above that "easy sale" price. That way, the seller and the agent ac…

Have you negotiated this? Or have you ever seen an agent offer this? To explain the issue in detail for others that don’t understand the dynamics: A flat percentage is the standard where I live. Selling agents are only incentivised to get as many sales through as quickly as possible, and the agent will deceive and cheat to achieve that goal. Selling 20 homes at 5% discount is almost double the earnings (commissions)…

> which can easily be equivalent to avoiding many extra years of work before a home is paid off

Yes it is an exaggeration at 1%, but not such an exaggeration when you consider that 3% is a realistic amount extra that a real estate agent can get if motivated. https://financialpost.com/real-estate/the-realtor-client-dil... - “a real-estate agent keeps her own home on the market an average of ten days longer and sells it for an extra 3-plus per cent, or $10,000 on a $300,000 house.”

When I wrote it I was specifically thinking of low paid friends who missed out on about 5% when selling their home due to poor advice from the agent during a hot market (my friends also failed to think straight because they don’t work in negotiation jobs, and they struggle with emotions involved with the amount involved). The reduction in principal will translate to requiring a total of ~10% extra over the lifetime of the new mortgage (extra interest = ~5%). I imagined how that would translate to extra years of work for them when they should be retiring. I also thought that the story of my friends happens to many, because many people are not used to negotiating sales for $x00,000 and have little financial experience to understand the impacts of their decisions.

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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I’ve purchased several websites on empireflippers.com in the $10-30k range. Happy to answer any questions.

What's your main line of business, and what went into the decisions to buy those sites? Did they all have revenue, and the owners just couldn't be bothered with the upkeep, and you figured you could? (Just going off OP's story here.)

They all had revenue and vetted by empire flippers (and myself).

I figured that I could either increase traffic or use simple strategies to increase revenue and then resell them at a higher price. I’m not sure what the owners motivation was for selling. Usually to buy something bigger is my guess.

Edit: forgot to answer one question. I had just quit being a minor partner in a VC and wanted to learn about online marketing, and also realized how much I valued freedom over my time over making more money. I tried buying, holding/improving and then selling websites for a couple years. I didn’t really love it - Google’s unpredictable behavior carries way too much weight.

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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I’ve purchased several websites on empireflippers.com in the $10-30k range. Happy to answer any questions.

What kind of projects are these? I'd say that $10-30k range is blogs with high search positions and established affiliate partnerships, but that's just my uneducated guess. BTW: empireflippers.com seems to be down right now, possibly due to all the hype caused by HN audience.

Yes that’s correct. Usually strong search position with a few keywords. One I bought and later sold had an affiliate partnership already set up.

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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> Could I pump out tiny SaaS starter projects and sell them at $10k+ a pop? Honestly I'd probably never trust a business doing this. From my POV they're probably just after cash from a buyer, not a good place for my data. I know I'm probably an outlier though, I don't think I've seen anyone else note a lack of privacy policy on the names one for example

I've sold a few small tiny businesses and some of the potential buyers are just students in their dorms with extra time on their hands. They have a bit of cash they can part with and just want to run a tiny site or Saas as a hobby more than anything. It's also a great way to get feet wet before they finally execute on that "great idea" they have :)

> some of the potential buyers are just students in their dorms with extra time on their hands

Yeah that's my concern haha

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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Where does someone in their early 20s get the capital to just up and start multiple ice cream shop locations, and simultaneously find the time to work on an array of random software "projects/ideas"?

This whole thread seems really fishy.

The theme of an entire thread discussing building and selling businesses like it's just something you can choose to do in your free time or not ...

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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This thread has an astroturf feel. I wonder who is making the money here and how?

100%

The theme of an entire thread is discussing building and selling businesses like it's just something you can choose to do easily in your free time or not ...

Oh, just build that random idea you had and sell it for 10K in a couple of months ...

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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Germany's biggest Craigslist-like service recently added a service like this for purchases that are shipped. I sold my previous MacBook using the system and found it really stressful to wait for the buyer to confirm the item. In my case, it was just someone who was a little bit slow and just forgot, but I can imagine abuse in the system. Same thing happens with PayPal buyer's protection. I can't think of a better sys…

What's the name of the service? I suppose you're not thinking of ebay kleinanzeigen, or?

Sorry for the extremely late reply! I do actually mean Ebay Kleinanzeigen. I don't know when they added it, but it's called "Sicher bezahlen".

Re: Selling Tiny Internet Projects for Fun and Profit

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think one better way to handle commissions for home sales is to have no commission for the first $x of the price. X being a price that it would be very easy to sell at, a price low enough that the property would just immediately sell without much effort because it is too low. Then apply a much larger commission percentage to the amount it sells for above that "easy sale" price. That way, the seller and the agent ac…

Have you negotiated this? Or have you ever seen an agent offer this? To explain the issue in detail for others that don’t understand the dynamics: A flat percentage is the standard where I live. Selling agents are only incentivised to get as many sales through as quickly as possible, and the agent will deceive and cheat to achieve that goal. Selling 20 homes at 5% discount is almost double the earnings (commissions)…

No, I have not ran this by an agent, but I likely will in the future.

I especially think that buying agents have the most messed up commission structure out there.

Not only is their real incentive just to make as many deals as possible, just like a seller's agent, but they actually get a bump in commission the more you overpay for the property.

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