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No safe level of alcohol for brain health: observational cohort study [pdf]

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Re: No safe level of alcohol for brain health: observational cohort study [pdf]

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Post by moshmosh »

mrfox321 wrote: post #3
flemhans wrote: post #2

Is there a safer alternative?

ketamine? weed once your frontal lobe is developed?

Legitimately very interested to see a comparable study for cannabis, in adult users.

[EDIT] everything I could find with a quick search is about heavy, long-term use only, which evidently has little effect on white matter, and uneven effects on grey matter, increasing it in some areas and decreasing it in others. Nothing about long-term light use, occasional "binge" use, anything like that.

Re: No safe level of alcohol for brain health: observational cohort study [pdf]

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Post by mettamage »

flemhans wrote: post #2

Is there a safer alternative?

Alcohol is drugs such as weed, mdma and heroine. One is more dangerous than the other, but they have one thing in common.

Drugs damage the body and/or to some extent in some way, shape or form.

Don't do alcohol. If you have social pressure, fake it. Like order a beer and don't actually drink it, pretend to sip. I think people need to take this more seriously and start to think for themselves. I know it's hard, we have habits, but it's damaging.

The safer alternative being: don't do it.

If you want drug like feelings, I'd recommend exercising, being in love or sex. I'm pretty sure one is able to get pretty far with dancing on music as well.

Re: No safe level of alcohol for brain health: observational cohort study [pdf]

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Post by hesdeadjim »

Haven’t had a drop in fourteen years after being a weekend binge drinker. I don’t begrudge the substance, but it has been transformative being this far removed from it.

The downside? Dear god have I missed the taste of beer. La Croix and other products don’t fill the gap. There has thankfully been an explosion in the NA craft beer scene in the last few years, and some of them are good enough that I’ve had friends who drink buy them so they don’t have to have a buzz to enjoy the taste.

I’d recommend Athletic Brewing and WellBeing for a first go. The IPAs in particular hold up well.

Edit: Fun thing I've had happen: I got pulled over speeding with an "open container" of one of these beers. The cop became immensely excited when she thought she'd get me for a DUI, demands to see it, I point out it's an NA, she inspects it, and this is followed by silence and disappointment. "Sir, you should probably not drink this while driving regardless".

Re: No safe level of alcohol for brain health: observational cohort study [pdf]

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Post by loganfrederick »

mettamage wrote: post #5
flemhans wrote: post #2

Is there a safer alternative?

Alcohol is drugs such as weed, mdma and heroine. One is more dangerous than the other, but they have one thing in common. Drugs damage the body and/or to some extent in some way, shape or form. Don't do alcohol. If you have social pressure, fake it. Like order a beer and don't actually drink it, pretend to sip. I think people need to take this more seriously and start to think for themselves. I know it's hard, we hav…

The parent was getting downvoted, and as someone who drinks, I don't necessarily find anything offensive about the parent comment (unless it broke a specific HN guideline).

It reminded me of my go-to when I don't want to drink alcohol at an event; I'll order a sugar-free Red Bull on ice. It looks like a cocktail, has more flavor than a water, and no hangover.

Re: No safe level of alcohol for brain health: observational cohort study [pdf]

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Post by scotty79 »

moshmosh wrote: post #4
mrfox321 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ketamine? weed once your frontal lobe is developed?

Legitimately very interested to see a comparable study for cannabis, in adult users. [EDIT] everything I could find with a quick search is about heavy, long-term use only, which evidently has little effect on white matter, and uneven effects on grey matter, increasing it in some areas and decreasing it in others. Nothing about long-term light use, occasional "binge" use, anything like that.

I read that heavy cannabis users regain their full capacity just after few weeks. So probably if there's any damage it's nowhere near as extensive as in the case of alcohol.
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