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Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All it means is that someone verified their identity. They are generally for people that have shown people try to copy their profile to fool others. Nothing to do with popularity, that correlation comes from the likelyhood of impersonation. But yes, also vanity.

You're leaving out the most important part, being verified but having no organic support means powerful interests are backing you against the population. Often this is journalists that push unpopular war propaganda and strategically ignore corruption and war crimes committed by the US and Israel.

Its just as often people that like to show their bodies as well as software developers, so bad take. Your observation happens, but you're reading way too far into it.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#33

>The blue badge is one of the ways we help people distinguish the authenticity of accounts that are of high public interest. This is gaslighting. That's not how blue checkmarks work in practice. They are a completely synthetic credibility token that is distributed by Twitter based on whose opinions it wants to boost. That is it. If verified accounts were about authenticity, two things would be true: 1. Anyone would b…

This criteria certainly seems to point in that direction: "Activists, organizers, and other influential individuals". I mean, they don't quite outright come out and say that they verify people for advocating for causes that Twitter supports, but I don't think there's any other way to read "activist" really.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#34

I always find it kind of odd when someone is verified on twitter but only has a few thousand followers. The impression it leaves is almost worse than not being verified at all.

…why? It ought to just mean they had their ID verified. That’s it.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure they were talking about verified profiles being hacked, changing their display name and avatar to Musk's, and then replying to Musk's tweet something along the lines of "I'm giving away free crypto, click here". In my view, 2FA should be a requirement for verification.

2FA has historicially been broken because it is usually attached to a phone number, and phone service providers are suseptable to social engineering. What twitter (and other websites) should be using is PGP, where the user holds the secret key, and there are separate forms on messages to view PGP signatures, and forms on accounts to view their public keys.

PGP is possibly the only workflow worse than SMS based 2FA for humans.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#37
reminder: Twitter censors their search, and won't let you download the tweets you've liked/saved, or your follower/following lists, in your data export.

I personally won't use sites that decide for me what I'm allowed to read (that they have already permitted to be posted). After a dozen years and tens of thousands of followers on the platform, I deleted my account.

You also can't really use a new account without getting locked out unless you add a phone number, and they have been incapable of keeping user data private or secure so far in the past.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

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post #37

reminder: Twitter censors their search, and won't let you download the tweets you've liked/saved, or your follower/following lists, in your data export. I personally won't use sites that decide for me what I'm allowed to read (that they have already permitted to be posted). After a dozen years and tens of thousands of followers on the platform, I deleted my account. You also can't really use a new account without get…

> won't let you download the tweets you've liked/saved, or your follower/following

Take a look at data/{like,follower,following}.js in the data export .zip.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2FA has historicially been broken because it is usually attached to a phone number, and phone service providers are suseptable to social engineering. What twitter (and other websites) should be using is PGP, where the user holds the secret key, and there are separate forms on messages to view PGP signatures, and forms on accounts to view their public keys.

PGP is possibly the only workflow worse than SMS based 2FA for humans.

How so?

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

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post #37

reminder: Twitter censors their search, and won't let you download the tweets you've liked/saved, or your follower/following lists, in your data export. I personally won't use sites that decide for me what I'm allowed to read (that they have already permitted to be posted). After a dozen years and tens of thousands of followers on the platform, I deleted my account. You also can't really use a new account without get…

> won't let you download the tweets you've liked/saved, or your follower/following Take a look at data/{like,follower,following}.js in the data export .zip.

Yes, they just contain numeric userids and tweet ids; not usernames or tweet data. The information is opaque and useless, you can't even construct URLs from them.
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